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Sam Cantwell, Silver Star winner, of Mahtomedi; Jerry Nalipinski, veteran who spearheaded the Korean War memorial, of St. Paul; and T.R. Fehrenbach, pre-eminent Korean War historian and author of "This Kind of War", share remembrances of the Korean War. Program contains pledge drive segments.

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So hit the phone's ringing one 800-227-2811 long way to our goal this hour, but you can sure help out thanks to the u.s. Bank retirees group and their coordinator Liz O'Connell for volunteering. Well, as we said, this is Veterans Day a national holiday that began as Armistice Day to Mark the end of world war 80 years ago today in 1954. The day was broadened honor all US veterans today. I meant they were going to remember 95,000 Minnesota vets who for a long time. We're pretty much forgotten about those nine.5000 betzer from 1952-53 in the Korean War the war wasn't even referred to as a war at the time. It was merely call the United Nations police action historians refer to it as the Forgotten War because it's generally been overshadowed by World War II and Vietnam every mash and pork chop Hill. There are probably a dozen movies and TV shows about World War II in Vietnam that we said 95,000 minnesotans served in Korea 738 minnesotans died 154 were declared missing in action in the u.s. Is a Halo 5 and 1/2 million people serve from 1952-53 almost 34,000 gave their lives to share an effort to make sure that the Vets who served would be remembered rather than forgot Korean War Memorial was dedicated on the grounds of the Minnesota state capitol the memorial commemorates the dead and the living with a tall bronze infantryman walking toward the cutouts.His missing body in the shower. Midday special Veterans Day Edition looking at the Korean War will hear from some vets and the war is pre-eminent historian going to start with one of the people who spearheaded the drive for the Minnesota Memorial Gerrie Lapinski who was drafted into the army back in 1950 and went overseas and 1951, Minnesota Public Radio. John Raby sat on a park bench on the Capital Mall within earshot of the workers putting the finishing touches on Memorial. Lapinski was assigned of the 7th Infantry Division 31st regiment pretty famous group of men.The unit is decorated the prior to my arrival with the mini Encounters in Korea. It was a Chosin Reservoir and just that the other thing and all they made your battles that I was wound up with the 7th Division and the pork chop Hill, which is another name that perhaps anybody reading Korean history will recognize and there was a movie made of it and so forth not that the movie was 100% accurate with the movie. Nonetheless depicted the name of pork chop Hill. Why was pork chop Hill important what happened? There was a major battle it was shifting of the shifting of troops back and forth pork chop Hill at the time was was the second voice from the United Nations troops that send the Koreans back up north located pork chop Hill and Old Baldy Hill and and he'll such as that. We're on the 38th parallel in that was aligned a establish does stop Zone don't fight here.Copart like that and then they started the negotiations that found him a job and the way that politicians and Military. Approach this presiding business was rather Hard to Handle. We're sitting there and they're shooting back and forth each other and they're sitting 1,500 miles away. I'm not sure how far the distance was. It is chitin trying to make peace and then they're still shooting. So, you know, where we at from this said you kind of wonder where your What It's All About Soul, but essentially then pork chop Hill was in there was a hill that day. Become famous because of that those encounters back and forth ear up and down the hill a couple times. So what kind of shooting action did you see? Who are you in? Well with somebody's got mortars and they stopped and more dropping mortars in your back pocket. I cannot say that I did any shooting myself because I was a Communications man Communications Sergeant. So I was a responsible for the communications between the movie to the Troops and so forth bi company commanders and and Battalion commander and things like that, but it was on pork chop Hill that I was a Company the company Commander for love company and those folks on the other side of the fence over there drop to drop them order near us and them ordered. Put me in a field hospital for a while. So I buy virtual that are that are under purple heart and I might add that radio on my backpack at the time when that motor went off. I shave my bacon. He said you were drafted and you say kind of ironically but what did you think when you were called into service? And this is just five years after World War. I had an uncle I was in the service but family-wise it was not meant much background in and I had some cousins I had been in the service. I rather admire those folks that were in the service and World War II some people that I know on that were officers so far is home on leave and intrigue me there their uniforms and things like that shouldn't be the case. So I'm getting older they stay in draft your draft and I don't like the idea of getting drafted going over and get my bacon shot at a lot of people are getting killed in the 50s. They were people I to get other people getting killed at coming home. And that's what this Memorial is all about. Tell me what the feeling was in the United States at that time in general. I think generally speaking the feeling with regard to the military at the time was rather pass. See if you had some military background you're saying okay. I don't got a chance to get in to do this or that the other thing and some people out some other people might say well y'all why should I go in there and get my bacon shut up, you know what to doing for me? There's people way over in Asia there that's nothing to do with us over here. If they were you doing that day or two different story, but in the final analysis those books at whatever degree of those of us that got over there. The bottom line is we stop the we stop the communism in Asia at that time that stop that right there and I guess if you follow history from that point on you will see that that was the beginning of the end for communism. So we look back on that. Now we say we I say that was what you were in the service. I have a hard time addressing this subject with younger generation because younger generation seems to have very little information on this the Korean War the Korean War information in the history books. Is it a couple paragraphs? That's it. They don't know what it is. Just just watching this Memorial being built. We see people walking by out here over the last few months now and they and they see what's that for you have to if you try to explain to a Korean War. What is that? That's something they don't understand. I just Feel that the information is important to get out to people for historical fact that nothing else though with the memorial is being built. For those of us that returned it was for those that didn't return for a radio listeners. You're being an old radio menu understand this. How would you describe the memorial? How does it as you approach it? How does it look? What's the impression it gives? What does it do for the viewer? Hopefully the explanation for what we have here are the soldier walking to the silhouette looking for a lost buddy is what it depicts. What it what is the meaning behind it is is going to mean something for everybody at a different point in time. Each person that goes through that gate on dedication day is going to have a different approach different meaning come away from a different idea on what it is. I don't want it. I don't want to put myself in a position to saying this is what it means because this is not what I mean to me. This is what it mean if somebody else is going to mean something entirely different the names on Minnesotans are not for the rest of the country. They're all minnesotans. So we're looking at 738 names that are going to be on these on these pylons there with the benches between and I would venture a guess to say there's 738 families that can come there and 738 people are going to have a different impression on what it's all about. There's the movie Private Ryan doing a lot of play and there's been a lot of talk nowadays about World War 2 Vietnam has gotten a lot of press there hasn't been as much about Korea. Although I would venture to say that Mash probably made pretty deep inroads. I don't know how accurate you think it is, but it is probably the most seen television show on History. Where do you think the Korean War sits in people's Consciousness about the wars that the US has been in you see a bumper stickers on cars my vehicle now, there's a bumper sticker in the rear window. It says the Forgotten war and essentially it's a forgotten war and I think for the most part the generation that Is here today that live through that. Of time that was one of those one of those situations work. That's that's not here. That's away from here. We don't want nobody we don't have to know about it. We don't want nothing to nobody. I relate the story a couple times over and over about the fact that on the way back home Military Officers that indicated to show him some of the returning gi's at people don't want to know you're aware you are just at the other thing. So if you get back get back to Camp change the civilian clothes and everything's going to be fine. People don't know another story that I like to relate to some friends of my dad. Come back come back home and then went to their neighborhood and some of their their buddies were in the neighborhood. They found him in a local watering hole and ask him where you been for two years. Not knowing it been in the service and this is fishes disaster. I think the general attitude of the general population the country at that time was It's not here. I don't want to know about it unless it was a family member involved in it. That's a different story. But for those that were not we don't want to know about it. Don't tell us about it. So what does that done to you as a vet? What is it done to all the rest of the Korean war vets we saying this Memorial is going to let people know we're going to we're going to okay, but before the memorial was ever felt you had, you know, 34 years of being a veteran of the floor and I I suppose those of us that came home from their Pursuit the same attitude that people presented as to say, we don't want to know about it. Don't tell us about it those of us that joint service organization American Legion VFW or cheddar and so forth. They had somewhat of a somewhat of a comradeship with that group of people because this is military type thing. What if somebody were to say to you you're right that we need to recognize the Korean war vets, but politically speaking maybe the Korean war is not as important as the Vietnam War because of because of all the bad feelings about the Vietnam War and it wasn't it simply wasn't as big as World War II which was maybe a more important War historically who are not flutter folks killed in the Korean War and if that's not enough to make its page in history, I don't know what is because as I stated before to the voice over there and other people as well feel at this work the Communist tide was stymied and that that's where it stopped and if people don't recognize that and don't want to listen to it. It was a voice that were there will have that always in our mind that said, okay. We stop those people right there. All in all are you glad you went to Korea. Absolutely? Absolutely. It's I think anybody that has been in the service will say that the experience gained in the service or something Priceless. I wouldn't do it again, though. Korean War veteran Jerry nalipinski of st. Paul. This is Veterans Day today, and we're remembering the Forgotten war in this first hour of midday here on Minnesota Public Radio in his 1963 book called this kind of War historian in veteran t r fehrenbach wrote quote Ten Years After the guns fell into an easy silence along the 38th parallel. It is still impossible to write a definitive history of the Korean War, but that war did not write the end to an Era but merely marked a fork on the road. The world is still traveling. This kind of war is the definitive history of the Korean War. It's out in a new edition repairing box says 35 years after he wrote those words. It still doesn't really need updated fehrenbach told Minnesota public radio's John Raby the title of the book refers to the very different nature of Korea Korea compared to other Wars that the US has waged. I think the most significant thing about the whole world was Truman's commitment of troops. This was a change. This was in reference packed almost everyone says that's why they like it or not this great deal of Cold War policy. This was the first time that the United States had actually committed troops to this type of operation and it was in response to what we call communist aggression. We have not reacted like this earlier when taking more passive measure such as the Berlin airlift significance of Korea was it happened and it did shape the cold war in the bush meaning of NATO building nature up into a very effective Force also showing that we as a nation had the will in other words. We were not going to put up with any more forcible extension of communist power, but it's also and you look at to the military actions which in specific we won but help us understand this war as the first war that we chose to not win overall. Well, that was something not at all unusual in history American public after two world wars. And that's why we never use the term War. You know, nobody is ever declared war since 1945 because semantically War means Whole Hog. Anyway, this is a very common thing in history the French the British other nations have done it you choose to fight beyond the line you fight over something and neither of your home in my arms where your existence are threatened what you at least for now proceed to be nice and interest at that time and the determination on wall on Wall Street hunt in Washington on the perception of certain people like Dean Acheson who took of the great beating from American Service at the time because they didn't understand I think exactly where he stood up. He convinced Truman that one this is the wrong war with the wrong place at the wrong time Against The Wrong Enemy, you know, just throw the whole thing. Furthermore. We had that if we enlarge the roar like when the Chinese came in, what are we going to do go mucking through China, you know what the five million man army. Now that vulnerable Western action everybody in the military with a shutter on the mainland division, of course, he went out and Johnson Disneyland trip something how big a change was this we done nothing like this before United States that intervened in the. Between roughly 1898 and 1933 when Roosevelt cancel the policy we had intervened continuing for Joplin Latin America. Okay, the nine states that was a lot of intellectual opposition to this but there was no real public opposition because this was all done with small professional forces either army or Marines you follow me Darlings of the society that they were a citizen Force at that time. Friday most of my sort of on the margins of society. That's the way it is the way we were guarded soldiers frankly a professional soldiers in that. And if you're so good, why don't you have a real job and you stayed the Army because you can't do anything else. That's kind of thing. Okay. This was new to the American 20th century experience in which our way was to avoid War and Peace by peace peace don't prepare and then however when a war is forced upon you like in World War II or in Korea. You're faced with aggression. Then you cry havoc and let loose the dogs will bark and try to destroy the enemy. For real this made no sense because Safeway and what are we doing that MacArthur wanted to confirm China, you know the porch and all and policymakers and washing I think quite correctly said, you know clinically mames in this war with basically are to preserve South Korea and not not to see people would only benefit Russia, you know, we getting a major war Russia might be able to pull something in Europe. Now this was drunk but it is an enormous subject. But this was very unsatisfying because the American public was not used to limited War. What limited War means is you set up for limited objectives with limited means you do not know mobilize and put all your eggs in that basket. And you also in that part of limited means you do not use all the weapons in Your Arsenal. We fought Korea and it was really sort of weapons on both sides with exception helicopters in the exception of jet planes. Everything else was World War equipment and most of our assembly taken out of mothballs. The I think that was I know that was terribly unpalatable the American public and times didn't understand what it is is you're sending troops to play as Chessman on a chessboard if you understand that analogy is absolutely vital to the end to the to the nation itself Nations not threatened, but it's inference or threatened which eventually in the long run could threaten the nation is one of those things are historically historically these kind of Wars have always been fought by professional armies. They say there was no llores in the 19th century British and French Park bars all over the world with a Foreign Legion and what the Indian army Indian army was not a small army 500,000 men of this kind and what happened in Korea was the job was just too big for the establishment the other professional that we had Astorian in veteran t r fehrenbach author of this kind of War. Korean war is the topic of this Veterans Day edition of midday there on Minnesota Public Radio. Glad you can join us or general Douglas MacArthur believe the United States should have commited itself to winning the Korean War saying there is no substitute for victory. He saw your up falling to Communism. If we didn't press on in Asia MacArthur made his views public by putting them in a Letter to a congressman whether MacArthur was right or wrong President Truman fired him for insubordination. But MacArthur return to the United States a hero and on April 20th, 1951. He gave his famous address to a joint session of Congress. Some may say to avoid to avoid Soviet intervention. Neither explanation seems valid for China is already engaging with a maximum power it can commit and the Soviet will not necessarily mesh its actions with all our moves like a cobra and a new anime will more likely strike whenever it feels that the relativity in military or other potential is in its favor on a worldwide basis. the tragedy of Korea distroller heightened by the fact that is military action is confined which territorial limits it condemns at nation, which is our purpose to save to suffer as a debit devastating impact a full Naval and air bombardment by the end of his sexual is a fully protected from such attacks and Devastation the nations of the world. Gorilla loan against the magnificence of the courage and fortitude of the Korean people defies description. They have chosen to risk death rather than slavery their last words to me were don't Shuffle the Pacific. I have just left. You're fighting sons in Korea. They have met all tests. And I can report to you without reservation. They are Splendid in every way. It was my constant effort to preserve them and then the Savage conflict honorably and with the least loss of time and a minimum sacrifice of life. It's growing Bloodshed that has caused me the deepest anguish and anxiety. Those Gallant men. Will remain in my car. I didn't my prayers always. I am closing. My 52 years of military service. When I join the Army. Even before the turn of the century. It was the Fulfillment. Hello, my boyish hopes and dreams. The world has turned over many times. Since I took the old on the plane at West Point. And the hopes and dreams. Wong's in Spanish But I still remember the refrain. One of the most popular power Ballads of that day. Which pope claimed most probably? lone soldier never die. They just fade away. I like the old Soldier about. I now close my military career. I'm just fade away an old Soldier. Who tried to do his duty? Ask God gave him the light to see that to me. Goodbye. General Douglas MacArthur speaking before Congress on April 20th. 1951 our last word today about the Forgotten War the Korean War what we were trying to accomplish and whether it was all worth it last word belongs to Minnesota vet Sam Camp Welch Cantwell from Mahtomedi served in Korea matter fact, he was captured and held prisoner by the Chinese are going is John Raby. I wonder what you think of MacArthur MacArthur unlike many, he's not my favorite generally is in town landing was bring it no question about it. The war was over as far as North Koreans were concerned after that soon as we retook sole word unfinished cup up, but he conned the Chiefs of Staff took going north and they in turn convinced Truman we could do it. You may remember he said you'd be back by Christmas. Well, that's when the Chinese enter the war and the rest is history. But of the 54,000 killed I would guess that 40,000 died between the time that I'm should have been over after school and the other War 40000 and we will end up at exactly the same place we started. How do you blame for that? well MacArthur if I'm going to name a name he had too much you go for any button and it's the thought that he could go to greater glory by retake the entire Peninsula was just too much from the recessed despite the advice of every 100 even come close to that thing both in Washington and elsewhere. That may not be fair of it's a person with Chacha. How real is the danger that despite this effort the Korean War Memorial in Washington. The one here, the one in other states real is the possibility that the war might be forgotten still. I don't think Danny now. That's going to be almost impossible. I've never met such a dedicated bunch of people in there must be thousands of X Korean veterans organizations there too and or three in Roseville. Alone Closing one for the Frozen chosen, which is a dual entendre. That's nicely put No, I don't think that what's going on way. Korean war vet former pows Sam Cantwell of Mahtomedi. He spoke with Minnesota public radio's John Raby who produced this hours report on the Forgotten War. The new Korean War Memorial is located at the Minnesota state capitol. This is midday over the noon hour will hear from President Bill Clinton and governor-elect Jesse Ventura programming an NPR supported by Kare 11 News featuring award-winning photojournalism a community involvement. The news handled with care how much Timber harvesting is too much scientist worry. We're already pushing the line in Minnesota's Northwoods. Timber industry says restrictions with retin thousands of jobs. 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We got the midday heck of a deal Gary's heck of a deal for Midday the new Minnesota Public Radio sweatshirt, which is a nice big thick grey sweatshirt the Minnesota Public Radio tote bag as well as a seal one year subscription to Newsweek magazine. That's the heck of a deal all for a $120 pledge, which is a $10 a month $10 a month pledge and you'll be able to receive those as our thank you gifts the sweatshirt the tote bag in the Newsweek subscription. If you'd like to Pledge of the $99 a month or $99 a year level, which is 8 in 1/4 a month. You'll get the tote bag in the Newsweek not the sweatshirt. So in any case the most important thing is that you just simply call as 10 other people are doing right now, they're on the line making a pledge of support 11 people to Minnesota Public Radio and 2. Midday. They've called one 802-2728 11:00 and we want you to do the same right now Gary we've got a goal is $7,000 this hour about another three thousand to go. So we're more than halfway there but we started to hear from I bet about a 30 people in the next 10 minutes or so. It's very very quickly, but we do need to keep the phone's ringing 12 folks are on the line right now expressing their support for Minnesota Public Radio and the programming that she listened to and you know, if you think about it, we don't have to give you a long speech about this you you made a decision somewhere along the line consciously or otherwise that what you find on the station to something you like to listen to maybe a like the coverage the the political coverage that you are on the station. Maybe if bought the coverage of a Northwest tribe was particularly interesting or all the remember the horrible tornado that roll through St. Peter and comfrey and reporters on the scene. Lots of special programming. It's the kind of thing that is made possible by your fellow listeners the folks who called in before with a $66 in The $99. Maybe they got in One of these heck of a deals in the past on $120. The important thing is that they made a call and work urging you to do the same. If it's time to renew. Don't be left out. We want to get you in on the drawing. We want to offer you the special premiums and we want YouTube. Ask your bored as it were kind to vote again, I guess one. 800-227-2811 Garrison Keillor coming up here momentarily. We still got about $2,900 to the goals. So keep the phone's ringing one 800-227-2811 join all your friends and neighbors have already made their pledge to Minnesota Public Radio including Dennis owner of Vadnais Heights who's called in and Miller of Duluth is called in and made a pledge genetic Kong of Chanhassen and Sally Driscoll of Edina. Those are some folks who've already called made their pledge of support said, yes, I I listen to Minnesota Public Radio. I enjoy the service and I want to help support it and we hope that's what you'll decide to do to along with the 12 other people who are calling right now one 800-227-2811. Hope to hear from you in the next few minutes to help you stay on track for just drive Thorson Paul from Minneapolis taking advantage of the heck of a deal. Thank you very much. Also, thanks to burn a house bargain from Breckenridge who's called in with a Step ladder need Rudolph from Saint Paul joining as well chapoton. I believe it is from Plymouth, excuse my mispronunciation Susie Madden or Mattern from Eveleth following us had one 800-227-2811. We have just a couple of minutes left here, and then we're going to be joining us to Keeler for The Writer's Almanac, but plenty of time for you to get your membership pledge in going to be here for many many days. We're going to try something different this year. You said in the past, you know, if you just shorten the thing up, it wouldn't be so ugly. I just shortened it up will get the memberships in and then you can get back to the regular programming. So we're taking you up on your on your on your on your claim their wine. 800-227-2811 16 callers Melanie one 802-2720 11 Gary your midday Community really respond every single time. It is just as amazing to me every time we do this how people will call and say yes, this service is something that I appreciate and I want to support it and then they call one 800-227-2811 and make a pledge for $66 make a pledge for $99 and get the NPR tote bag and Newsweek subscription to make a pledge for $120 and get the heck of a deal the subscription to Newsweek the tote bag and the new MPR sweatshirt for $10 a month. Can you afford $10 a month? Can you afford $5 a month anything that you think will fit into your budget is very much. Appreciate it one 800-227-2811 now here's the deal. We're going to have to stop here. We don't get The Writer's Almanac on Anna's promise. But our volunteers are going to be here and if we're going to make our goal of $7,000 just this hour we're going to have to keep the phone's ringing up $2,500 left to go there 16 folks on the line right now if you haven't had a chance to call. You're listening right now. We're urging you to go to your phone make a pledge lots of membership levels to choose from the important thing is that you do what you can if you think this is good quality news and information programming programming that's useful to you. Then. We need your membership pledge time to become a new member Now's the Time. It's time to renew last time available. You want to make an additional pledge, whatever you can do to keep the phone's ringing though. We're not going to be pledging for the next couple of minutes, but boy, we need to keep taking those memberships in one 800-227-2811. Hi, Minnesota, this is Click and Clack the tappet brothers from Choctaw. And we want to invite you to join us for a special to our car talk this Saturday beginning at 11 here in Minnesota Public Radio, call and fundraising and reading a letter and fundraiser Channel W FM 91.1 in the Twin Cities right now. It's time for The Writer's Almanac.

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