I could write a 6 minutes and I'll past 11. And good morning. Welcome to mid-day on Minnesota Public Radio. I'm very active glad you could join us. There is a new poll out today that seems to show that Twin Cities area residents are generally pleased as punch with life in the Twin Cities. In fact, if somebody could come up with a solution to the crime problem. It looks like Twin Cities residents would be downright euphoric the pole call the Civic confidence pole of Twin Cities metropolitan area residents is conducted each year by Metropolitan State University and joining us this hour to talk about the survey results is Ken Peterson the co-director of the pole and an associate professor of public administration at Metro State Peterson is former commissioner of the State Department of Labor & Industries also in the past served as deputy mayor of the city of Saint Paul, we're also interested this hour in finding out how these results square with your attitude. So there were three questions among others that people were asked do you believe Region is generally headed in the right direction. What is the Twin Cities most serious problem? And what should be the top priority for any future Revenue Surplus. Those are three of the questions that the pollsters asked and we're interested in your response to those questions. Give us a call whether you live in the Twin Cities or not to 276 thousand is our metro area number to 276 thousand. Side the Twin Cities 1 800 to +422-828-227-6102 for 22828. Ken Peterson. Thanks for coming in today. Could you be a gay in general? How do the results this year compared with the results from the previous two years if you conducted this. One that's the most surprising to us was the fact that people are feeling better about the economy even better than they have been 52% of Minnesota Twin Cities area believe the economy is even getting better than it has. The last year was like 35% So we're getting people to a more and more confident about things. I saw that figure and I was kind of surprised that it wasn't higher in the past doesn't seem to be much predictive value to people's attitudes here because of course the economy was improving fairly significantly the last couple of years when people weren't very optimistic now, I guess I suppose you could argue that maybe we're on the downside of that that bloom and now people are really optimistic inbred skepticism. People just say I don't want to feel too good about anything for a while. I want to get too excited. But now they're seeing the results of the current economic Prosperity. I feel pretty good. Are you surprised at how many people are so pleased with with a general state of things? What is it? What are you saying in? The beginning was we ask people how they stop with the directions of the region if we felt that we just had the right direction the past we've had 40 to 45% States had the right direction 5567 hidden wrong direction this year. We had 52% not a lot but still the majority of people saying it's headed the right direction. We think that says that people are really good about the economy, but just about other things in general. Just about climate education. Another thing. Can we see that in Picayune the good feelings about the educational system and good feelings about government student. Great time to be an incumbent politician. Wonderful time to be Nutella whoever already Carlson will have a greater chance of winning this fall. Some of the other survey results I found interesting though. You had a question about what people like about the Twin City metropolitan area and they were kind of all over the map in terms of their preferences are the things they like but that the top three convenience arts and culture and then a variety of activities available has that changed much over the last couple of years can beat his wife in top last year to be asleep in higher. It hasn't changed much at all. Whether it's always been around at 8% Mark which it is now 8% of the people in Twin Cities like it here because the weather when show after last week in 3 hard to believe it was taken right in the midst of the two big storms you had if I had that we had in May if I remember correctly how many seasons we have here and they don't like it and they do like your the arts and culture is an important thing here is that we have 14% of the people say they like arts and culture arts and a variety of theoretical institutions another request went through so many ways not surprising but it's it it's just a one more acknowledgement of the fact that this is a pretty diverse area in terms of entertainment. What do they mean when people say convenience? What is what's actually included in that just think ability to get around easily and I think this ability to get around and that's when a troubling things about this convenience is probably is the most important thing but our second biggest problem we're seeing is transportation and urban sprawl which one of the two of them up 16% of the Twin Cities area people think people think that's the most serious problem we have in the problem with traffic congestion and urban sprawl. Is it going to cut into a convenience to that's why I think Siri can we like about it's easier to get the one downtown together to get to the suburb to get out to a rural area in the more of sprawl the more congestion. We have the last convenience we going to have really cuts into one of the big reasons people like the air. I think that that's one reason policymakers going to have to dress this congestion issue and this broad issues. Next 10-15 years that can be number one priority. I think in the Twin Cities area. We're taking a shower at some poll results that are out today metro state did a poll of Twin Cities area residents asking them number of questions about life in the Twin City metropolitan area and how they feel about the Twin Cities and we'd love to have you join our conversation again, though a couple of questions to think about and share your opinions on do you believe the region is generally headed in the right direction? What do you think? That is the biggest problem facing the Twin City metropolitan area and of course the last couple of years we've had some significant state budget surpluses if there's a surplus in the future, what would be your top priority in terms of spending or returning? That's her + 57, 6000 or 1 800 to +422-828-227-6000 or one 800-242-2828. We were talking about how great it would. I need to be an incumbent politician this year yet on the other hand. I was shocked to see that almost half of the people that responded to your survey think politicians are either less honest than the average Joe or Jane or downright dishonest. But there's a man that's amazing amazing people that them and they are the ones I like it. So what about the one that don't get like in bread. Skepticism. I think we all have a body like a politician and maybe it's some of it is the fact that we think the politicians get in get in positions. They may have to lie that may have to be dishonest in order to please one group as opposed to other and I'm not I'm not trying I know know if it be not judgemental but they are saying these people simply resigns. The rest of us are has that changed over the last couple years a couple years is higher when we had the number state legislators in trouble and then we had skip Finn had to go to prison for her problems and a couple DWIs and was higher then and now it seems to have gone down about five six point in terms of the the distrust of them. But it's this seems to be bought the level that bought 50% of the people think they are run. At least more designers or at least out. Alright designs the most of us. In the list of most serious problems facing the Twin City metropolitan area Far and Away. The biggest problem sided was the crime problem at the neck if you added up all the other ones you barely equals the crime problem and yet it's substantially lower this year concern over crime substantially lower than it had been in the past any explanations for for the change or why there is so much concern about crime and then the at that point crime was rated number one problem by 60% of the people now down the forties. I think the chief reason probably was the murder rate in Minneapolis in 1995. Do we call that was the year we would hit dying to get drawn run a hundred murders in st. Paul murders are the one that we attract attention, even though other crimes and may affect you more often tend to affect you more often or higher or lower murders the ones we read about to receive on the TV and there were most concerned about And it's the ruler of the news media take the television can't be underestimated here. There's nothing better than a good murder story on TV. There's a TV news. I just love it and fire murder and they love those things and why you look at the newspapers and lot of radio stations. You don't see the same amount of coverage chart emergency to see on television and TV is the chief form the chief way. We get our news 46% of people say that's how they get their news know. I was surprised to give them that concerned continuing concern over the crime problem that when it came time to spend any State Surplus or anyting crime doesn't even know there's no there's no mention their of more judges are more cops or more prisons. That doesn't even register know it doesn't nor does the idea of maybe I please don't go to make a job. We have high confidence in our place in most Parts in that van area. So we don't seem to think of spending more or that doing something our police force. This is going to last stop crime. I think we should we see crime. There's not an awful lot we can do about it. So that's a result of other conditions result of something else going on. The government really has very little to do with much difference between the where people live in the Twin City area that is it in terms of their attitude toward crime. More concerned about crime in the inner cities than in the suburbs more fear of crime in Minneapolis last beer in St. Paul and lot less fear of crime in in the suburbs. We we ask people if they're trying to measure fear crime by asking people there are areas in there within a mile their home with your afraid to walk in at night and they are you get them 47% of the people saying that the s or are those areas and it's lower than was two years ago is 50% but still it's a considerable amount Minneapolis has the highest rate interesting enough at the door right in the Suburban and Rural communities, but Minneapolis seems to have more problems with crime than other Parts Macon area. Ken Peterson is with us. He is co-director of the new Metro State Police out today at Civic confidence pole Twin Cities metropolitan area resident. He's also an associate professor in public administration in metro state and he's been good enough to talk come by today to talk about these Call results in again. If you're just tuning in would love to get your responses to some of these basic questions and see how your attitude square with those of the poll respondents. So, I'm on the questions. What should be the top priority for any future Revenue Surplus. What's the Twin Cities most serious problem. Do you think in general the Twin City metropolitan area is headed in the right direction, and of course you don't need to live in the Twin Cities to respond to these issues get us call Twin City area number is 227-6000. Side the Twin Cities one 802-4228 or Diana at your first good place. Returned to the Minneapolis area actually in the middle of all those storms. I lived out in Buffalo New York for 9 years and it's really good to be back. I want to just talk a little bit different about the rule of the economy place in the attitudes and Buffalo New York is a contract Union City. They are they've lost a lot of Dublin steel was one of the biggest industries out there and they lost I had years ago and they're still losing companies and it really affects people's attitudes toward the worth of their city. And of course the money isn't there to do some of those things that needs to be done. And I think that that really is a big difference in your attitude and what people are saying about Minneapolis and st. Paul area and it is good. Not only affects people's attitudes toward the economy but a lot of other things Recession that the if you didn't affect the Midwest as much as it did other parts of the country, of course, the Northeast was one of the hardest hits and it really seemed to be quite a big contributing factor and the other issue that wanted to touch on was that right now in Buffalo New York. They are looking at Regional government and one of the Things that were noted and compared to was house a Paula doing such a great job of having the the contentions suburbs contribute to St. Paul's well and that helps keep the whole area of float. Thanks for coming. Creates a sense of overall enthusiasm about a lot of things that really aren't directly related to the economy. You think that's true man. I think that probably in American Life today in the Twin City. Certainly that are good economy is the most significant Collective fact, we have that it's made a big difference in it's just how we feel if your neighbor has a job if your your parents your son or daughter if you have a job, it makes a big difference how you view the world. And so I think you're much more optimistic about the world even though I think that we've been blessed with a good economy over the years, but now it's not even much better. And so I think you feel more personally optimistic and you probably feel more optimistic about your community you live in to Diana reference the governmental structure issue. I didn't see anything in your power is also talked about that, but there is a overwhelming support for satisfaction with government services, and I always hear Complaining about the government and yet everybody seems our most people seem very happy with the government. We ask nothing basic government services politicians are Crooks. What do you like the public employees? They think that they do as good or better job than other employees in Twin Cities area, but they also like the service the cat basic local government services of stuff that we re depend on libraries Rhodes Road repair issues like that Parks. They like him a lot. Pretty happy schools do a little bit more poorly and law enforcement summaries is more like the services which is Give you a good sense. That means you're doing something right here local governments seem to be working right now. There was another a part of that though that seems to indicate that the media again is doing something wrong or or at least maybe perceive that way, you know that the greater the personal contact people have with their governmental units the happier they tend to be and when you get to the federal level not too much personal contract contact rather people have to depend on the media for information about the federal government and in the federal government doesn't score all that well tracks with your intuitive feelings and it's also tracks with Nash supposed to say the same thing is that if you have more personal experience of local government, which we all do you feel better the most don't have experience with the federal government break very limited, even though they may do national parks like that. But most of our experiences not for you not very intense. And so we hear about News in the problem with news is that good stories aren't news bad stories are news. And so when you find out something bad about the federal government, let us know when the federal government has something good. We're not going to hear about it. All right, Mary. You're a kind of place. I feel as though in the Twin Cities. We have wonderful choices and so many areas but it's hard to get them unless you have a car and I don't know how the government relates to the Twin Cities bus company, but I'd like to see money put back into the bus company so that the buses can run more often in sand instead of cutting back on weekends, simply because people aren't going to work keep the buses running so they can get to all the wonderful cultural things we have before you run. I think if I remember you would be in the distinct minority in terms of poll respondents on the bus issue lot of people were much more Supportive of spending more money on light rail Transit would you go would you agree with that? For transportation system in place because the light rail Transit would have to be constructed from its very Basics and it would take several years for it to be put in place where as improving the bus system could be done by simply adding to the roots and adding perhaps more mini buses on routes that aren't heavily traveled here, Mary did I accurately represent what we ask people how they would solve the traffic congestion with 44% said they prefer Light Rail 24% to build more roads or expand existing ones, which is not a real good possibility and only 15% said better bus service and 5% preferred toll roads. So while Mary is lemon or the other her purse Lucius Prague the cheapest talking about traffic congestion as a problem. Only 10% see that as a problem. Now, we keep hearing boy things are getting terrible out in the freeways and it's a parking lot certain times of the day and doesn't seem to bother a lot of people. It doesn't seem to bother her at least as much as crime does not part of that. Maybe they see Regional problems only through what they hear on the news media stuff and it was like that kneeled. We don't talk much about traffic congestion on TV. You have a big gut tie-up on 494 whoever hears about it use experience it but if you hear if there's a murderer you do hear about it. And so you may judge your Regional Le problems going to that line and we didn't ask what if people saw as a second or third probably just saw this as the most important problem. Do you think I can't resist asking this question before I get back to the poll results. Do you think if the news media or tomorrow to start reporting? Essentially only good news about the Twin Cities in this case. Why this is great. This is great. Everything is working fine that people would actually believe that about the Twin Cities as interesting questions that I don't know. I think they would if I tend to believe a certain Lisa certain amount of it, I think they reported more good news in the federal level take Aleve. You would have people feeling a lot better idea probably do in local that would do it for the good news on the envelope with how things are working on. The national level is much more difficult clay, you're coming. Please marry of the blind spot as it relates to sprawl and congestion. I'm originally from Los Angeles and I watch the creeps through the years until it was unmanageable. And this is one of the reasons I came here is because it didn't have as much straw and congestion and I think the city made in the metro in general may be missing it and all of a sudden the creeps up on them. I live out in the western suburbs and I cannot believe how it's just the city is continuing to roll out with no planet and I happened to be in the city of Sherwood and the present mayor Dahlberg and the city council really see no reason for anyone to have anything to do with planning in their city except themselves. And with that attitude, I think was that myopic attitude not in my backyard is another indication of a blind spot. So I think he's got some serious problems coming. It's just kind of creeping in on us. Do you know how much change and attitudes about this side at least over the last three years we do. We didn't get any urban sprawl now, we've got to pick up 6% since most important problem we have and it's probably the rain from 4th to 5th in terms of the other problems that we're seeing. So I'm more and more people are starting to agree. Play that we should do something about it, but not quite sure what to do. But I think we should do something about starting to creep up on the radar screen anyone talking about how people view politicians with a good degree of cynicism about them. At least it's because they're untrustworthy the only look out for themselves and their own particular political agenda and you can take a look at the election cycle of taking place right now and you can see how people and political power use those particular office to promote their own political gain and trustworthy. Thank you very much for your run. If a pollster called you up and asked you to ask the question. Do you think that the politicians are less? Honest than the average person. How would you answer that question given your thought that really what what it in your mind really is what it what's at stake here is the trustworthy issue. Would you wear it with a question implies that they're only thing here cropped it this business of honesty it would you would you roll the trustworthy issue and under the honesty umbrella or no? Because it's a different thing. It's like corruption. You don't like using anybody of being corrupt. I'm just saying that they are untrustworthy and and dishonesty and Corruption. All right. Thanks for call Liam wouldn't what increases they see them as being at least consistent. They have a certain principal Integrity that they wouldn't Go from one one side to the other. I think this that I think that's the way it was getting at that trust with at least, you know, when you're letting me know what they're going to vote for. You know, what you're going to do. What do you think can that 1 people were asked this question about the honesty issue that that they interpreted that to include this business of waffling on the issues and saying what people want to hear and so I do I do I think that they think that's part of being dishonest person we're talking the shower about some new poll results that are out to Metropolitan State University is out with its Civic confidence pole of Twin Cities metropolitan area residents third annual Paul measuring how Twin Cities residents feel about the Twin City metropolitan area. And the Ken Petersen is Joanna's co-director the poll Associates professor in public administration at Metro State. He's been going to come by today to talk about the poll results. And again, we're interested in hearing from you. Those of you listening now to see how your attitude square with the attitudes of the pole respond. Among the questions on the survey at what is the Twin Cities most serious problem. If the state has a Zamora has another Revenue Surplus, what would be the top priority for that Surplus and that in general? Do you think the region is headed in the right direction some questions for you to think about we hope you'll give us a call with your responses to 276 thousands are Twin City area number to 276 thousand and outside the Twin Cities. 1-800. 242-282-8227 6001 800-242-2828 will get some more information from Ken Peterson and get to some more colors in just a moment. I'm learning Benson on the next all things considered as gubernatorial candidates flood Airwaves. There's one who get their time every day and even get paid for it on Party candidate. Jesse Ventura won't give up his day job at KFAN if you look at the situation. 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There's a chance for some more rain and at least on Friday a chance for some thunderstorms as well the Twin City forecast for the afternoon partly cloudy with a high temperature in the low-80s, maybe an afternoon shower as well with a high temperature or 20% chance rain partly cloudy tonight with a low around 60 and then partly cloudy tomorrow in the Twin Cities with a high temperature in the low-80s right now. It's 79 degrees and sunny in the Twin City metropolitan area. We're talking the shower about a survey of a Twin City area residents that measured how Twin City residents feel about the Twin City metropolitan area what they consider to be some of the big issues from the big problems facing the area and what they like to do with any future state revenue Surplus. And again, we invite you to join our conversation to two. 6000 or 1 800-242-2828 the director of the pole Ken Peterson from metro state is with us and that before we get back to the callers have to talk education a little bit. We hear all this complaining about the schools and yet everybody seems so when not everybody obviously but a lot of people very very happy with the schools in the Twin Cities metro area satisfied with their run the local school districts and 60%. 68% said he is satisfied or somewhat satisfied while 79% said he had a little summer La confidence in their local school districts of those are some pretty young pretty good numbers. I think for the people education higher in the suburbs or satisfaction was higher in the suburbs in the central City's much higher in the suburbs people seem too much happier with their run their school districts in the suburbs and the rural regions of the 7 County area. Now, they're pleased generally pleased as punch with the education system, but then If there's any extra money under a State Surplus, I want to spend more money on education. You spell additional money you got that's a good way to figure out what your priorities are. 33% said education is what he wanted to put the money and that's basically k212 education. They want to put the money there and that's been the same for the last three years only. We got the simple question 28% state income tax cuts and then 22% silk basic different types of spending 18% said property tax. So you see kind of them in terms of Spenders you got around 55% of the people saying they want spend some money than education or on infrastructure 45% saying they want some tax cuts and there and I think lies the a big part of the election this fall we go spend the money we have in the future. How should we spend any of the money we have did you get anybody saying all of the above? I we all private say all the above are called Dave your next your comment place the problems in the Twin City now and in the future revolves around one thing and population problem if the Twin Cities such as other than in the world record growing so fast and so much we wouldn't be worried about them crying as much and traffic congestion and then housing developments in shopping centers in noise of the planes at me. All those things is driving me nuts as I live here than it's Wednesday my whole life and the growth is just baffles my mind. I just can't believe how they can just clear cut trees like they're nothing just the bills and keep building building. I think clay and when I got to call her as mention about City Planning, I do think the city government and County government and then as well as state and federal to get more involvement in the Grove special. The cities they feel like they just care more about the tax revenues than they do about what's happening to them. A lot of the natural beauty that are in this state, Dave Grohl us did that or I'm sorry population growth did that get specifically mentioned that already think that got rolled into people's concerns about urban sprawl in there and I just rolled into concerns about the things urban sprawl traffic congestion education in crime Patrol and lots of things in terms of population dilemmas. Of course, it's cities have is it they're the ones are in charge of whether or not you expand. They give out the zoning permits and stuff the same time as soon as dependent property taxes for their survival. So yes, he's right cities got an incentive to increase their property tax revenues and it may be at the cost of a hurting the overall loan region of times we here The commentators speculate that people are inherently uneasy upset perhaps with the growing diversity of the Twin City metropolitan area to that surface at all. Not a bit. I think that some people may be concerned about that didn't didn't didn't come up a bit. There was some concern about them. Ron 5% of problem just a terms of racial discrimination May 45% but in terms of the flip side of that appeal concerns about the changing the relative homogeneity of the population, did they lookin turn Liz your next your comment place? About education educated kids and violent crime and other money in the legislature used to focus on the schools with a low test scores and I have several points here. The problem children changing schools some children change schools Panda 12 times a year the problem of many children in the Apple school system who cannot learn very much for many reasons. I need for special training for teachers in special materials and smaller class sizes. Thanks for your appreciate it. Lots of people want smaller class sizes 45% We asked how you improve education 45% said make give a small class sizes only 14% wanted expansion of our tax credit voucher program. We have in the state 8% 31 reducer power teachers unions 12%, Statewide Cricket on 15% agree with her that we also we need more money going to school to do with high percentage of low-income. Children Todd your comment place. Pick up your from Iowa. I just wanted to say I think the Twin Cities have successfully found a way to mold small town values into a metropolitan area. We burst Beast country to visit quite a bit because we enjoy some of the cultural aspect seeing a lot of shows and things like that in kind of started playing with the idea of moving up here because we we we did like the area so I can check into the schools and found it between most wonderful schools in the country and I'm coming from a Midwest perspective in my wife California perspective. So we're looking at two different sides of the coin and have found the Best of Both Worlds here in the Twin Cities and I think the focus needs to for any political movement needs to be on keeping a hold of those values while growing you see any if if the posters were to ask you Todd, what's the most serious problem facing the area does anything come to mind at all? Independent woman singing the traffic jam on 494. Okay. Thanks for your call. Well, obviously one of the folks she's happy with the cultural institutions and kind of the overall quality of life, which is again squares with the majority of people that that that you Pole where do Attractive people like Todd and Mary football for tracking all those people back here. No question about it Darryl anyone. I believe that the gentleman from Los Angeles at the nail on the head the planning for the growth and the control of sprawl is non-existent. I think the small suburban communities have a a very focused agenda on who they want to live in their communities and who they don't want to live in their communities and there's no cohesion to that the metropolitan area. Is basically a bunch of divided almost I travel probably. Close to 1,500 miles a week around the Twin Cities and in all directions. I see the construction growth the how these communities develop from minute one, you know from the first tree that goes down to the the way to the houses go up the orientation of the houses that the way the communities her or put together and I think it's it's going to be to our detriment 10 to 15 years. Now, we're going to really going to pay the price and I probably won't be here by that I think. That's all I have to say. Thank you. Thanks. Ken Peterson. You've worked at the state level commissioner of the Department of Labor and Industry work at the city level Deputy Mayor st. Paul now an associate professor in public administration at Metro State based on your personal experiences to get the sense that there's anybody or any group of people taking that big picture. Look at the Metro at the Twin City metropolitan area that so many of our callers of our on easy about them, which I think it's been re-energized out last few years under Kirk Johnson and Jim Psalms leadership. They're doing a good job of trying to take a better. Look at things. Also you seen them forever my own church group. We got a I live in st. Paul but my church who got a small group is very active in so-called little book communities movement and I think other places are feeling that same way of trying to make things. Call the policies that make the make it more level make cartoons is even more miserable than it really is and that's one thing. I think that I don't think of the people here would want to be seen as complacent the twin size. I think most people think I'm Are you stationed at strong and I was a good time to the Salt still dress on these problems. It seems to me. This is her idea of the regional problems. It's a good one to dress right now though. I would think to come up with any kind of consensus is to what it is. You might do about any of this it really is because we got a bride if communities we got we got something like two hundred different communities in voluntary and Street tough then to get the all those people to agree that survey respondents seem to be pretty happy with the welfare reform law that that was passed in the new direction that that that's yeah. They sure do the welfare reform was passed the sign the log of President Clinton in Watauga, September 1996 couple months after dinner first the first survey Surfer survey showed that was the area which people were most dissatisfied with Gummer performance with the welfare. Administration welfare programs all the last two years as much higher rates of satisfaction with administration of welfare programs. I don't think that then or now most people knew much about how well for is actually Minister unless you probably were sipping or you work for welfare, but you had a annoying feeling that something wasn't right, and I think now more more people are feeling that we may be doing a better job of administering those programs news media coverage ago the news media coverage tonight. I think that it was driving and couldn't use me to come down take the news media has been unfair on this at all. I've been pretty straightforward five people were kind of concerned about welfare, and now I think I feel a lot better but jeans on the line for Morehead go ahead Place State and if not the whole nation then his child care and I have a suggestion for a possible solution. I would like to see Child Care Incorporated into the school system. So instead of In case through 12 website inputs through 12. Now that would give an opportunity for the entire population to support child care through their property taxes. I've been retired for 17 years and I don't have any children in the school system, but it would seem that this would spread it out tonight and if my property taxes go up but it be for a good cause but I can't see that it would go up to a $4,000 a year like it impact some of the young folks with children. It will also give us an opportunity for those people that are single mothers to put their children are able to go to work which is now and it really a problem with all of those things are kinds of problems another benefit might be in a community of the size that I'm leaving in such as more ahead but be decentralised infant care. Inside of it being spread out through all of the true Child Care Facilities opportunity for Staffing all of the caregivers degree programs of LP for child care or lpms and Sean anybody you are very many people in your survey talk about the child care as is something that they like to see addressed that issue and I don't have any real numbers. We had very few number to talk about specifically about it, but interesting enough people do agree with Dean and that schools are place where you may want to add more government services and other areas at least a significant number of people wanting more more services schools. We had 37 35% wanting the school system to add more services in the already have who didn't specify what that meant more Athletics or childcares Dean said, but they do have a car. How does the school can deliver a decent service that they may not have the same confidence in the federal government? Certainly? Why do you suppose so few people? Like what is 4% only 4% cited the poverty in low-income housing is being a problem in the Twin City metropolitan area with hear more and more about the lack of affordable housing. We hear more and more about this growing gap between the Haves and the Have Nots concentration of poverty in the rest yet relatively few people aren't you concerned about it? We did a survey right before both newspapers and major articles with Twin Cities major newspapers ran major articles on the housing problem. I think we've done the survey after those articles are probably going up a pointer to the same time. Most of us aren't affected on a daily basis by by the lowest of the low income housing problem for people all of the metropolitan area, and we haven't done a very good job of addressing it, but it's not something that seemed to Impact most people's lives. When you do these surveys. Are you able to get a hold of people who might be in dire economic circumstances it hard to find them. What will we do? When we look at that? I respond as it does run pretty much pretty fairly across the socially economically on buddy. You're not a client from low-income to try and come in various levels of education and that's everything but even if you're only talking them 10% of the people being low income in the Navy of maybe if only a few percent of those are having housing problems right now. And so that doesn't it just doesn't take a high place on the overall the other problems and feel may think that crime certainly if you live in New York City that may just be a more serious problem in Houston right now Kelly your next go ahead place you're coming for taking my call you believe that too in a general sense between these are moving in the right direction the park system here is second to none as general as a general rule. We seem to be well-educated especially in the basic skills, and that's reassuring to me as an educator. But the biggest problem I see a man. I've heard cry mentioned several times and traffic congestion one thing is being able to a 5 to find affordable housing to purchase. That's under $150,000 and I'm a recent college graduate and looking to purchase a new home. Somewhere within the Twin Cities metro area where I'm not getting out someplace like Big Lake MN where I'm about 45 miles from the from the Central City and have to deal with that quite a bit of traffic congestion and it's really tough to find anything in your between 90000 and 120000 especially single family homes and that are new construction at housing issue again, you suppose Ken Peterson, when you do the survey next year given the fact that it it seems like the housing problem starting to get worse and worse and give him the lack of predictive value that that these surveys tend to have more time before about the economy and how it is, actually improve dramatically before people seem to sense that it had you suppose by this time next year people that housing issues going to be a lot higher on your list of problems. I think it will be He gives it more coverage coverage for people like the last caller was having difficulty in finding Alice tube to buy as well as in the middle income areas as well as low income people having difficulty finding protons for them. I think it will be higher if the media reports and if we discuss it people don't think the important us they hear on TV and I see the newspapers near about on radio Parts if we if we just report how good the housing situation is that everybody will believe it's okay. I know we have time for one more call presented. Did you actually provide people with choices or was it like fill in the blank? What is concerning you and did they provide you with the answers on the problem when they ask the problem that's an open-ended question in some place in some place that we asked for it would give people choices other place would say yeah, but make it very open that like, what do you like best about the Twin Cities made? Open what is sauce to from Millbrae open ended what what are you going to do with the survey results? We sent him out to office holders. We try to go to meetings and stuff and try to tie disgusted with the word out try to just enter introduce a level of a factual background into our problems were faced influences who try to try to get as much as possible. If one of the governor candidates would call you up and say mr. Peterson got your survey results pretty interesting. Give me one one piece of advice. He wrote I want to get elected. This is fall. What should I do here? Based on what you found out try to do a Bill Clinton did 1996 and that is use the people's confidence to the best Advantage. Thanks a lot for coming in today. Thank you. Appreciate why did Ken Peterson has joined us this hour co-director of the Civic confidence pole the Twin Cities metropolitan area residents Apolo that is out today. 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