(00:00:00) We just got word Bob that Joan grow is being dispatched to come over here to our table from one of the backstage rooms where she's talking with congresswoman Schroeder. And I think if we can just hang loose here for a few seconds here. Joan grow will show up and George might have a chance to talk to her George. Did you say something to Bob about congresswoman Schroeder's lying about the question that the Press has not asked of Vice President Bush that being actually the question is one that we haven't asked of Bob Dole, which is this at the vice presidency is not that important in office and so forth and so on then what would he advised his wife should George Bush win the nomination and offer the vice presidential nomination to Elizabeth Dole the former Transportation secretary woman who has been mentioned as a possible candidate for high office. Joan grow is joining us right now. She was very instrumental as you may recall and getting Schroeder set up and coming to Minnesota. There was a few hundred people were expected to show up at the Club in and and st. Paul at a reception for and it seems to me that a few thousand people showed up (00:01:05) instead. That's exactly right George. It was the kind of situation where we wanted to have at least 200 people there to show support and interest in Pat Schroeder. And at one point we decided it was out of control. We had about 12 to 15 hundred people, which I think demonstrates the interest there is in Pat Schroeder and in her candidacy at that time (00:01:27) Joan Pat Schroeder said, she really hasn't had any second thoughts about getting out of the race. She said she's not sure that this would be the year for a woman to be elected and she was in the race to win. The question is as a woman who's served in high office for a while now in Minnesota and one who is sought High office before do you think that maybe it's necessary for someone to get into to erase knowing that they can't win a sort of become a sacrificial lamb almost in order to break through that that Whatever feeling of resentment or our hostility that women might find at the polls. (00:02:06) I don't think so and I certainly wouldn't encourage any woman to get in a race to be a sacrificial lamb. There is a double standard that exists out there for women who are running for a very high office particularly in office that a woman hasn't run for before but Pat Schroeder for the short time that she was in that race exploring the possibility showed people that you know, she was articulate she could talk about the issue. She understood the issues. She could get organized and she did a good job and I think when she made her decision not to enter the presidential race, I think she left that race with a lot of good feeling and Good Will towards her. I just think it takes time George it just it takes time for people to adapt to the idea that they haven't seen a woman in certain roles. And if you think of President you think of mail because we just Haven't had any role models, but it's going to (00:03:02) change something like Margaret Thatcher should help I would (00:03:05) assume you would think so and we have seen women leaders in other countries. I don't know what what the real dilemma is here. But certainly it's because we haven't had enough women coming up through the system that's changing and that continues to change (00:03:19) Joan. Do you think it might be in part a conservative versus liberal situation? We do have as you recall a lot of conservative women who are also moving up in the Republican side. Would that maybe make it easier for a woman to have a conservative woman coming in? (00:03:34) I don't think so. I mean you can't tell from the party for one year to the next but I don't think so. I think it's just a matter of people recognizing and understanding that women have lots of roles to play in politics and in all aspects of our (00:03:47) life. Okay? Thank you very much Joan grow.