Good morning, everyone and Welcome to our Saturday morning program. This is Rich diekman speaking to you from the second floor balcony overlooking the cortile in the old federal courts building in St. Paul there in just a few moments vice president Walter Mondale along with other dignitaries will dedicate this building Landmark Center. Today is dedication marks the culmination of work that began in the early 1960s to save this magnificent old structure from urban renewal the city of Saint Paul Ramsey County. St. Paul Ramsey Council Arts of Arts and Sciences as well as many other Civic and cultural groups have all had a hand in restoring this building and turning it into something that can be a focal point for the Arts in st. Paul with me this morning to help describe these festivities as NPR's very own Maryland helps her most of you know, Maryland for her work during membership pledge time on NPR. Well today Maryland has set aside that role and consented to help describe the ceremony in this beautiful structured, Maryland. Good morning.In addition to describing the ceremonies this morning, which is we said well including the dress by the Vice President. We hope to give you a feeling for what this building looks like and some of its history will hear from a number of people who were interviewed earlier this week. They include an Astorian person who was a central figure in the Reclamation of Landmark Center and a man whose organization is now headquartered headquartered here in Landmark Center. We should mention to you that the vice president is expected here about 10:15 and he will be preceded by the Saint Paul Scouts drum and bugle Corps and I see the Maryland assembling over in the North End of the building. We are in the South End and the until the formal ceremonies begin. I'd like to describe the building by the outside of the building for people those of you familiar with Saint Paul and it's Skyline will know that just to the west of the downtown area between 5th and 6th Street stanza a very old building very solid looking building that reminds one of a castle there are several turrets.It's made of granite large Granite blocks, which are smooth on the outside. And the generally it looks like something out of the last century which is exactly what it what it is. It was built in the late 19th century and Maryland, perhaps you can just drive a little bit of what we see here on the inside of the Landmark Center activities. We are as Rich set on a second floor balcony of the building in an open car door that overlooks the quartile which is a the largest Center Courtyard of Landmark Center. The cartel is a perhaps half a block long. The entire building does cover a complete City Block in this is a very wide open area in the center of the building. It rises Sports stories to ask I lighted ceiling in death as we look up we see plain Pains of clear glass this morning letting in the morning sunlight and the design of thoseHanes is repeated in the tiles on the floor of the courtyard below. It's only one of the many many design repetitions that we see throughout this building open quarters of the floors above the courtyard provide balcony areas on are all four sides of the Corti on each floor and columns extend upward from floor to floor with a gun designs on ornamentation of the top of each column. I think that every time I look up rich and look around I see yet another design another intricate detail of this very Charming building this morning of the atmosphere in The Landmark Center is one of anticipation and excitement. It's a day that has been look forward to for a long long time by the people active in this project and the citizens of st. Paul have joined in the festivities more and more of them arriving all of the timer number of chairs have been set up down below in the courtyard. Probably aTop 100 chairs and more and more people are assembling standing behind the the area of seeding. It's a very mixed crowd old and young men and women people of all ages and descriptions. I didn't get very pleasant to cross section of the city of Saint Paul come here to share in this event. There's also a an area set aside for dignitaries who killed many of the people who've been very instrumental in the in establishing this building as elected officials City officials. The queen of the Snows Tiara, the speaker's Podium has been set up. Down below us to our left and from their vice president Mondale will speak to the group another very lovely feature. This morning are flowers. There are flowers all about they seem to be Garden bouquets then use and gladiolas and Mom.Several colors in baby's breath and death all around ringing this the top balcony area are lovely bouquets of flowers. And another spot of greenery are the job of fig trees weeping figs and large brass Planters down in the court to Maryland, as you know, both of us spend some time here this past week looking around and trying to get a feel for this building and not all of it has been completely refurbished into and fixed up from the condition that it was in the 1960s and we'll talk about that condition and how it got to be that way in a little bit but one of the floors that is nearly completely restored is the third floor and headquartered on it are subgroups as they Saint Paul chamber orchestra and the Schubert club and Compass which is the community program for arts and science in Saint Paul and all of these organizations occupy, very beautiful officers that have been restored to their original.What condition the woodwork has been sanded down and refinished a very fine Rich Oak Woodwork and in a couple of the courtrooms in this old Federal Building. The mahogany has been restored to its original condition and it the earlier this week. We toured some of the floors are some of the courtroom and they include one the Sanborn courtroom which has Rich mahogany carvings throughout white Vermont marble and skylights of stained leaded glass very beautiful. It's worth the trip over here. I think just to see those rooms to see what kinds of courtrooms were here. What kinds of work went into a building like this in the late 1800s and the while we're waiting for vice president Mondale to arrive. We're told he's expected at 10:15 would like to talk a little bit about the history of this building.It was begun as the result of a rapidly increasing population in st. Paul. We're told in the 1870s and 1880s home delivery began people began to get mail at their doorstep rather than having to come in to get it and one of the things that occurred to was that mail order catalogs get a boompeak people didn't have to go into town and go to hardware stores. They got the Sears catalogs that you Ward's catalog at home and they were able to order a way for things and as a result the mail is picked up a great deal and there was a need for a new post office at your money was requested in the 1880s and it finally was granted by Congress and the federal courts building was begun, which as I said was begun primarily as a post office in the late 1800 was begun in 1892, and it took ten years roughly to complete it wasn't until 1902 that it was first occupied. The first floor was primarily the post office area.The upper floors were occupied by federal Offices including courtrooms. As we mentioned then the building began to take on a life of its own as buildings as this one do and in the 1920s and 1930s it began to reflect some of the history of events going on around it. And I spoke earlier this week with Virginia Koons who is the executive director for the Ramsey County Historical Society and she explained to me some of the events that took place in the 1920s and 30s which were reflected in this building and we'll listen to that interview now.We saw of course a whole series of very interesting trials and I in the courtrooms in the 1920s in the 1930s as a result of attempts to enforce prohibition and the Volstead Act and then later Trials of man accused of them of crimes committed as part of the crime wave. It came out of the Depression era. And it was very common to see during the 1920s every morning men and sometimes women lined up in front of the courtroom is on trial for having us Steel in their basement for manufacturing and selling moonshine. This is a. Where I famous Illegal liquor was made. It called, Minnesota 13. and so they were These illegal styles of course rated by federal officers and the people who are operating them brought in for trial. The trials were held in the federal courts, because violation of the Volstead Act course was a federal offense, but the sentences as we would look at them stay probably see rather like the usual sentence was a day a year and a day in jail, so they weren't terribly it seems now like a pat on their tap on the wrist, but you have to remember to that a lot of these people who are called into this kind of violation. We're really rather ordinary people people who are perhaps like to drink or so and could make a little money selling it and so forth. This is a very different sort of thing than the crime era which grew out The probation. A lot of people seem to think that are the wave of crime of the years and which St. Paul was in effect an open City to criminals from around the country. These years were related to depression, but they really were not that started about 1925 and grew out of again bootlegging. a situation created by probation and so it began with the liquor violations. And so we had to Country bad gangs of people that barcus Barker karpis gang the Dillinger gang people this kind formed during this. and early in the early 1920s beat the chief of police in the political leadership of the city worked out an arrangement passing the word along through the underground that the underworld rather that criminals would not be molested in Saint Paul providing they did not create crimes when they commit crimes and they were in the city. And so the word spread that they would be safe in St. Paul as long as they lived quietly primarily spent their money here. So st. Paul did it become it was Notorious all over the country as a place where criminals could spend time without being harassed by the police system broke down. They tended to run out of money and when they ran out of money, they tended to rob banks The Barker karpis gang robbed the Northwestern National Bank over in Minneapolis and shot a couple policemen. Made their getaway driving to Como Park. I had a flat tire. I stopped fix it a friendly young man happened by and offered to help they shot and killed him. Not long after that they robbed us with payroll in South Saint Paul and again got away but sprayed the surrounding buildings with gunfire was very wanton senseless kind of thing, but probably the most spectacular these crimes where the two kidnappings of William ham and Edward grammar by The Barker karpis gang and the men were snatched in the downtown Saint Paul streets and carried off to Hideaway in Illinois, Bensenville, Illinois. They were kept for several days when the ransom was paid. They were released unharmed But this these kidnappings. The Hammond bremerkamp kidnappings wear to a number during this. But the grammar and hammer kit ham-ham kidnappings particularly aroused. The city's leadership and the concern of the city's leader is in they began a massive cleanup campaign brought in a reform government and for mayor and so forth and set out to clean up the city. And they did and the Barker karpis gang members were tried here in the federal courts building and sentenced to prison terms Alvin. Karpis. Was not released from prison until the early 1970s and he was deported to Canada. But anyway, they did clean up the city in the background. You heard first the Applause which Mark the entrance into the Landmark Center here in st. Paul of Vice President Walter Mondale. He's now standing just behind the podium and the flag has been set aside after the national anthem has been played The Anthem played by the same Paul Boy Scouts drum and bugle Corps. They are now standing three abreast in the North End of the Court Hilaria. Minnesota flag is now being brought in and set in place and more dignitaries came in with the vice president & food 5th District Congressman, Donald Frazier st. Paul Mayor George Latimer 4th District Congressman Bruce vento and to his right mrs. Joan Mondale. We are now watching the scouts move back out of the main area and joining the rest of their troop in the north end of that being the scouts that brought the flags in and it appears that dignitaries are now going to be seated. Vice president ladies and gentlemen need to be here on such a cheery wonderful delightful occasion as we have what a wonderful crowd is come here. And and I know all of us who have been in any way connected with Landmark. One of the first of all say thank you for so many of you to come and join in this happy what I call a happy week for Saint Paul because in St. Paul and this week, we are going to preserve the best of the past Kia and move on with the best of the future in the Science Museum and it gives me an opportunity there for to welcome some of the guests we have so that they can see what we are doing here in Saint Paul. and first of all and properly I'd like to introduce to you the members of the Monday all family Joan Mondale and her father Doctor Adams and sun tea with a rising you take please he'll be going I think down to Yorktown tonight. I think I saw that on television. Yeah from Minneapolis or is representative Don Frazier and along with him Bruce vento from our own District here in St. Paul at Gateway both rise. Lake City, Florida I might ask. Mr. Donald Frazier is a candidate for higher office. And also whether this is another candidate for higher office on the other ticket Malcolm boost. Would you put your hand up mister moose? And now I can relax I've been on pause. I have been all these years. Well, you know this wonderful building. Was originally and I have a little pamphlet here that gave me a little bit about it. It says that they started the plants in 1892 and 10 years later. They completed it. It sounds almost like today in this device president. They didn't get things done. So rapidly then has maybe we like to think they did. But anyway, this building is served for so many years and sewing 19. 67 it was deemed no longer fit for use in those of you old enough yet to remember what it looked like indeed. It was not fit and it was going to be torn down but Faust Faust sided people in the city of Saint Paul decided that shouldn't happen to it. So I may as committee. And might I take this opportunity as long as I mentioned the mayor to ask that our present Mayo stand and recognition for all the work that all the males have done since that time. So they called the committee in order to preserve the old Federal court Building. What a wonderful and delightful sordid was and so why don't we ask the two people who really went to work at that time Georgie decoster and Frank Mazza Telly if they'd stand because they were the head to the original committee. And if we if we have the old those who started it, how about asking that the present president? Dr. David Lanigan keeping recognized by us. So a nonprofit corporation was formed and on it went. And the building was transferred. We had a wonderful ceremony was transferred over to the city of Saint Paul and then eventually the city of Saint Paul turned it over to rant account. Now the proud possessors of it will come back to them a little later on. the work was started and Architects were brought in because indeed necessary in order to not have the building as it is. Now. This is what they've achieved. You should have seen what it was in all sorts of things going on. So why don't we ask the Red Skull and Wayne winsest and representing the Architects has done such a wonderful job on this day. And so we come to our opening today. And we needed one person who we wanted to specifically recognize here to kind of stand in for all the volunteers for all the people who put so much labor time and effort into making this this wonderful building in this wonderful preservation come true. And I think it's quite fitting that we ask Betty must to be that person and let's give her the hand. Seeds of particularly large hand from this Cloud because she has indeed been the driving force behind much of the activities surrounding the restoration of the Landmark Center and it's a Triumph by gosh. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Betty on we go and we come up to the day. the work's been accomplished started just about 10 years ago about the same length of time that it took them to build it from their original plans. Why should it take any less or any more time to restore that which is fine, which is what we have done here. And so we come today and we want to recognize the gentleman who has made today's program so such a good one at least up to now at planned all the things for yesterday and all the wonderful things that are going to be going on today. So Terry O'Brien what you stand up and take it back. Is he there yet? The Jaycees of done all sorts of Manpower and other good work in planning for this happy occasion. So we would ask Dan Avery if he would be so good as to stand in the house of the JC. And no st. Paul event is complete nor should it be without our Queen of the Snows Molly in Richton Molly? What are the credit to the city than those things that you see from Dallas on the tube every so often delightful to have you here Molly now? There is three groups that have so much to do with this building. And I'd like the representatives from them to stay and I'm sure that I'll have one or two missing but let's hope that we've done our homework. Well from the Saint Paul city council without them there would be no Ron Maddox de poza Rosalie Butler. from the County Commissioners Bob Diane Ahrens and Allen dance Albert Don't anybody say he missed one? Because I know I missed when he was missed on purpose. Now. We have the board of landmarks. These are the people that do all the work could see that all of this is made possible so I can call them if you just take them as a group would they just quickly stand raise their hands if they're standing in the back so that you'll know who they are, but you'll make a lot of Jim Dickerson Nancy way our house or John Mayer spends will Bush and Meredith all let's give them all the wonderful hand or oh my goodness how they deserve. And one group it always does a good job a Miss. Martin is here representing them. The Chamber of Commerce have been behind this right away from the beginning. So I miss you. Now we've said the proper. Thanks and indeed they were proper. To those who saw to it that Saint Paul will keep the best of its past. And we have to come to the fall mall open. We have left one man out who should have been in one of the groups. He is the chairman of the Ramsey County Commissioners. Mr. Warren sheiva and he has the distinct pleasure Anna to introduce the main speaker and the main ribbon-cutter at this our inauguration. Lauren Chapin 1 shaver who is the chairman of the Ramsey County Board of Commissioners? This is Mondale. Congressman vento Congressman Fraser near Latimer I'm very pleased to be here this morning on this very happy occasion of the opening of Landmark Center and The Rebirth of the old federal courts building as a community resource on behalf of the board of County Commissioners. I want to welcome you. All to the grand opening of this very exciting facility. The old federal courts building was transferred from the federal government the city of Saint Paul in October of 1972. This was the first building transferred under the authority of the amended historic buildings legislation, which passed Congress in August of that year. Knowing how slow many projects move you can tell by the speed with which of this transfer took place while anxious we were to save this particular building the city of Saint Paul then entered into a free moment with the Arts & Science Council to restore the amanas the facility and in turn the city would fund the maintenance cost in 1973 the legislature expanded the County's authority to let me for the Arts and educational purposes. We Ramsey County then became responsible for the operation of building and the Arts & Science Council and the old federal courts building in December of 1975 the county negotiated funding agreement with Minnesota landmarks, which provided that the county would assume title to the building and landmarks would proceed with the renovation. The executor deed was filed in June of 1976 in the citizens of Ramsey County became the owners of the building which now has become the exciting Community facility. We are opening today. And now I have the distinct honor of introducing a rather highly placed representative of the former tenant. Why no be pleased with the changes that we've made ladies and gentlemen, it is my very great pleasure to introduce the vice president of the United States The Honorable Walter Mondale. Does the audience there was vice president Mondale a standing ovation, and there are Smiles all round this morning Rich there. Please have a vice president with stomach for this event and appears to Marilyn that the crowd has swelled here significantly. There should be three to four maybe five hundred people now in a tortilla Larry and standing around the edges as well continuing to apply vice president Mondale. Thank you very much worn for that very kind introduction. It's a delight to be with Bob Ritter again with your outstanding Congressman Bruce vento or gifted mayor George Latimer my good friend from across the river Congressman. Don Frazier. They've lanegan who is the president of Minnesota landmarks Betty Musser and all who did so much to bring about this marvelous day today. I'm here for many reasons. first of all I like Saint Paul in Ramsey County. Secondly, I like this building and thirdly my wife said you better be here or you're in trouble. So that's why I'm here. And I'm glad I am what a beautiful day and what a marvellous event years ago when I went to Macalester College. one classmate I would work over the Christmas holidays by carrying mail and we pick up the mail down here at the main post office. And although this building was never on my route. I managed to sort of sneak around and look at it because I don't know of any building in Downtown that has the magnetism and the interest and the attraction that this building has it's truly a remarkable and unique architectural and superb example of what can be done. And now today we dedicated for all of these marvelous reasons this this event didn't just happen automatically. It happened because of the work of the Ramsey County Board of the Saint Paul city council and its leaders of the Saint Paul Ramsey Arts & Science Council. The landmarks board and the and the really unique and exciting aspect of today's event is that practically all of the money that went into this event came from private sources, I think nearly 90% of the money that has made this event this building and its facilities and it's functions possible is the result of what leaders in the local community Ramsey County st. Paul and elsewhere have done with their own money their own volunteer time their own creativity to make this possible and that is an example of which we can all be proud. The goal of the Minnesota landmarks Corporation is to create a work of art serving people. And walking into this building today seeing the obvious care which is gone into its restoration and especially seeing so many people here who care about this project suggests that there is absolutely no doubt that you've succeeded. What we're seeing here today is not just a monument to the Past. It's not just the Museum of what was It will be a place in the heart of st. Paul for people in their everyday lives all people to visit in daily activities with shops and restaurants with concerts and classes with offices and Exhibits of every kind it will bang people and culture together. It will help assure the girls in the Vitality of downtown Saint Paul and because of that of Saint Paul and Ramsey County when I watch the Vikings on television and my wife can't distract me. She also likes to tell me that more people in America go to the theater and artistic events, then go to Major League Sports. I doubt her figures. But any other man, there is a massive interest in America. And if I may say so particularly in Minnesota in the yards, thank God for that and we can predict confidently that from this day on forward literally hundreds of thousands of people all people will be using this building for interesting exciting inspiring thrilling events to enrich themselves in this community for literally decades to come. This Center is located on one of the most important historic spots in the end Tire Upper Midwest. Someone said that history. Is the common memory of a people? If so, this Center will help us share that common memory forever. This building was the symbol of the federal presence for the whole region. It was the head of navigation. It was the head of rail Transportation through this building stream literally thousands and thousands of immigrants who came to this area for our grandfathers and grandmothers and helped build this community this state. Throughout his grade history through this building came thousands and thousands of our sons who went off to war from this structure and from this building began a marvelous new service in the 19 Earley nineteen-hundreds from this building the first free home delivery of the mail many famous court trials have occurred in this building many citizens have gone into a trial apprehensive. In this building come out happy many of gone in the trial apprehensive and properly so they came out miserable and some of them dedicated most of their life there African to service in a Federal Institution. It has been a heart of the federal court system many famous. Minnesotans had their offices here Frank B Kellogg do the famous Kellogg Briand peace pact Henry chips. Did Senator McCarthy Chief Justice of the United States Warren burger and many others President Truman and President Eisenhower. From here and they told me that they they crawled through the fifth floor window to speak from the balcony. I know what that's like as many times after I give a speech. I've got to crawl out the window to get out of there. And of course this spot was A great historic significance before this building was built. In the 1850s the Saint Paul City Hall was located here. Baldwin School was built here. And that was the beginning of Macalester College McAlester is where Joan and I met and so I'm very interested in that particular event in American history show we have And exciting thrilling. broad range Cultural center that is now here in the heart of st. Paul. We hope forever. We have a center that gives great meaning and depth. To our history and to our culture in this marvelous State and this marvelous Community. All of this has been brought about by leaders and government and leaders and private life with values and with a sense of caring that is made the difference and for all of those reasons going into the past. And at the present and for the future, it's a great day for all of us. Thank you very much. The vice president includes the speech in the crowd again Rises to give him another Standing Ovation the crowd that continues to swell as more and more people to ride here in the Landmark Center in downtown st. Paul this morning. Robert Ritter has stuff to the podium in a few moments. We're going to have the official ribbon-cutting ceremony, but just one second before one group that I did miss him as my conscience. The Pricks me was the same Paul Arts & Science Council that were not mentioned and they did an enormous job in helping to bring this all about. So let's get on with the rubbing ribbon Kid Cudi. The ribbon is extending over the doorway to the left of the speakers platform. The vice president does not gone down three steps and stands in front of this wide white ribbon. Probably 6 inches wide extending across the doorway. This is Mondale has joined him as have a congressman vento and Congressman Fraser and mayor Latimer vice president has been handed a large gold sheers a rather imposing looking instruments ryczek, and you see that and the Boy Scouts play a fanfare. You're very point is better than mine, Maryland. I'll let you continue instrumental and he invites them to join him and love in the Snipping and indeed. That's what happened there. The ribbon has been cut vice president Walter Mondale and Betty mustard have joined in formerly opening The Landmark Center as a monument to the future of St. Paul as in Arts and Science Center here in downtown st. Paul. There is picture taken going on the press that both press photographers from the newspapers and television cameras that work at the meeting is concluded brands from Europe. Robert Ritter, thanks the audience and they begin to rise and move about the vice president. Now moving to a shake hands with members of the audience that he's moved right over to a woman who need speaking with them. Other members of the audience. So young boy gathers close around and the Boy Scouts move into their music and I think that's what we're going to listen to for a few moments. The music here in the Acoustics here in the cortile are not unlike the Minneapolis Auditorium some of you may recall than a drum and bugle Corps perform. Their there wasn't much that the announcer was good saying that's the conditions here. Vice president. Mondale is still here. He is still shaking hands with people who came to listen to him and others dedicate this Landmark center, or is he surrounded on two sides by 4 Secret Service men 5 secret service men watching the crowd and the other politicians who came with him this morning or also reading people Malcolm moose reading the vice president We'd like to invite you to stay with us because while the formal ceremonies here are concluding we still have some more interviews with people who are instrumental in bringing this building to its present state for you to give you some idea of what the building is like and we have also invited Saint Paul Mayor George Latimer to be with us for a few moments. We're not sure though at this point whether or not he'll be able to come up and join us. Vice president continues to move through the crowd and almost informal reception line has been set up as people of file. Fraser and them chickens Applies for the Saint Paul Scouts drum and bugle Corps the crowd continues to move about there will be tours of the building throughout the rest of the day as well as a number of informal musical presentations by Jazz Band by our own powdered milk, biscuit Banda Rio Nido and others throughout this Landmark Center. So for a Saturday afternoon and the early September, I don't think you could go too far wrong but to stop by here maybe today is going to be a little bit crowded perhaps not but surely within the next few weeks. This is a remarkable building a remarkable public Heritage and we hope that's how many of you can join us three shedding. Vice president Mondale is still here. He still greeting people in the crowd and come up to the chain that separated the main area from the podium area and we're just going to let the scouts play on. I think we're all the scouts are playing in we watch the vice president moving through the crowd here. What we'll do is we'll listen to an interview that I did earlier this week with Betty Musser. She of course was credited here today with being one of the driving forces behind the Reclamation of land mark Setter and let's listen out of that interview about her feelings about landmarks at her and what she hopes for it in the future. But started in 1969, I believe when all of the government offices have moved out of here because they went to the new federal building and this building was declared Surplus and there was a question of whether it would be torn down and they are burnt on Byrne was the mayor of st. Paul that time there was such a citizen protest against taking it down and I think in order to cope with that, he named a committee to save the other federal courts coming and so that was really if you're asking about the origin that's how it started. What's got you going during those times when workmen word available or it looked like a room or perhaps a whole floor might have to be put off for a year or two or three? The building itself really talks to me. I think I really do feel that lived many times have your discouragement in the early days when people didn't seem to feel is very worthwhile was always coming back to the building. I guess that made me and there are always a few people that were very supportive and encouraging for the building just seemed to me important as part of our history and the beauty of it like this ceiling that was all covered with paint. It just seemed to say it wanted wanted to just have that paid. So that we could see its beauty. I think it's a lovely building and I think it is important for a city to recognizing chair treasure its own history. My husband coined the phrase many years ago a work of art serving people and I guess those are the two important aspects of it for me we've spoken of it. Historic importance and and the Aesthetics no building can really be saved unless it's useful and it seemed very important in terms of what it could offer as it as a resource for many people of different kinds of activities to make you 7 to serve the people of Saint Paul and of The Wider Metropolitan Community talk for a minute. She will about some of those things some of the services that will be provided some of the things I will be here. When you may remember that when the building was transferred from the federal government to the city plan made for it to be of service but was that it would become the home office for several of the agencies that were in the Arts & Science Council and that still are those are the Schubert Club the Saint Paul chamber orchestra compass and in addition to that the Ramsey County Historical Society. So those became our basic tenants. In addition to that we have for court rooms will be available to many groups anyone can apply and use them if an appropriate purpose and the cartel area downstairs also will be available for the public to enjoy and to bring in special exhibitions. In addition to that there is now an exhibition area on second floor, which will have is its first exhibition. 19th century early 19th century Russian paintings that are coming from the Soviet Union and then they will be a number of other exhibits there. We have roughed out an auditorium in the basement which will be probably completed during this year and that also will serve the agencies that are in the building but also be something that can be booked by others to use for music and dance and and we hope to have a ratskeller. We hope to have a Sidewalk Cafe sometime. We hope to make it really a PPL Center. And that was Betty Musser with whom I spoke earlier this week. She was instrumental in having this building reclaim to the point it is today and there's still a lot of work that needs to be done on it, but it is open for the public today and tomorrow and it's a beautiful place to come for a visit. We are here at the formal dedication of the building as Landmark Center vice president Walter Mondale spoke here about 10 minutes ago. He he is still here talking to people in the crowd of three to four hundred people who have come to see him to listen to him. We have been hearing in the background the same Paul Scouts drum and bugle Corps and they're raising their trumpets again, and I'm afraid that they if they start to play you won't be able to hear me or st. Paul Mayor George Latimer who has joined us te we we're going to we're going to Google cars in large wonderful open kirkyard public buildings are something incredible to hear but welcome there and I it's a beautiful Feeling by people of every age there and I think the vice president being here has added so much to the day. Now in the coming weeks and months and years this building is going to open up more than just its third floor. Mayor Latimer. Can you tell us just a few things that you expect to see here and some of your hopes for the building? Well, do you say Paul chamber orchestra will be one of its first tenants as you know, they are already talking to a local restaurant or for a basement-level i restaurant, which should be very nice because there's a high density of employment in this area without adequate restaurant facilities. I expect that this indeed will be the Hub of a cultural activity right now. I'm wondering what the listener is hearing. Probably a good deal of a Saint Paul Scouts drum and bugle Corps if they miss what I was saying, but heard what the scouts were playing. I think that's a fair trade. I'd like to add I think that we have to be very careful about program. I don't think that use can simply develop a space and leave it there and assume it's going to be alive. I think you must program it and I think that we've got all of the elements that we should use this as a hub of artistic and cultural activity throughout the city Mary Lattimore. Thanks very much for coming up and joining us here on the second floor balcony of the cortile will let you go now, but thanks again for stopping by a few word. Thank you a lot. The time is about 10 minutes before 11 and vice president. Mondale is still here. He scheduled to leave here at 11 and he is it according to his schedule spoke for a shorter. Of time than we had originally thought he would and then maybe you did that on purpose so he can meet with some of the people who were here at 11. He leaves for the airport. And of course as many of you may know he heads for his hometown of Elmore Minnesota in the southern part of the state just a few miles north of the Minnesota Iowa border where a welcome-home Fritz day is planned. It'll be the first time that vice president Mondale has returned to Elmore since assuming the office of Vice President. Presidential presence is always an interesting thing to observe Rich F. We have the Secret Service being fairly unobtrusive and yet very very much present. And now we have a couple of the vice president play touring nearby probably making an effort to keep him on schedule, but I don't know that they're going to be successful because he's clearly having what they having a wonderful time moving moving about talking with people. No doubt hearing from from some of these people as I understand of the guides heard yesterday that many many of the people who came yesterday and particularly among the older people have worked in this building when it was a federal building and they hiked down up to their old office and looked around to see what had been done with it. So this building holds many memories for people left for immigrants says the vice president noted in his speech who who became citizens here for men who came to join the armed forces and literally marched off to war from this Federal Building for of course, many many people who I served as a post office and work in the post office. And so as the vice president moves through the crowd. It is not be at all surprising If he if he were killing that kind of story We noted earlier that Malcolm Lewis was in the crowd and death Malcolm Luce's father served as a postmaster in this building during the twenties and thirties and indeed the tower clock that has been reinstated are as I understand. It was in the original plans and never really be constructed with finally put in place in 1974 large 8ft diameter clock that can be seen from blocks away in downtown Saint Paul and that is in honor and memory of the Charles moves the father of Malcolm moose with no the time in downtown st. Paul from The Landmark Center clock the vice presidents and congressmen appraiser invento. Mrs. Mondale was chatting with folks in the garage and other dignitaries. Moving about it. So it's as a feeling of a family event to show the vice president. Maryland has made no political speeches today and isn't scheduled to the event in Elmore. Is it scheduled as being a personal advantage of shorts but it's obvious here with the people who are with Him. Mainly Congressman Fraser that he's doing some politicking for the Democratic informal way. He's moving now rather quickly or much faster than he was a few moments ago as it appears that the Secret Service is ushering him for the door and we expect to see him leave here in just a moment or two. We have one more we have some time in one more interview that I I'd like to share with people that was an interview with it. We did earlier this week vice president now is moving toward the door appears and he's definitely leaving the building and and I will conclude the the ceremonies here today as we mentioned earlier. One of the groups headquartered here will be the Schubert Club. The Schubert Club has been active since 1911 in St. Paul giving music lessons and also concerts to the public will be headquartered here in the earlier this week. I spoke to Bruce Carlson who is the executive director of the Sugar Club and I asked him how it felt to be headquartered in a building like this. First of all, I think just working in an A and a handsome building like this is a lift. I noticed when I drive to work in the morning down 94 that I'm looking forward to going to work more than I did when we were in our facilities. Which one is that bad? But Something special about this building is probably the nicest building in Saint Paul. I think that. I think Frank Lloyd Wright. Said that he used to get letters from people. He builds houses beautiful houses for and in the letters written after the people had been there several years they would Point out that their lives have changed somewhat they have felt more Integrity in their lives and more. Maybe it's in staff penis and he thought it was from being in beautiful surroundings and then Where you are and where you work what kind of clothes you wear make a difference to how you feel? We just couldn't be in a better. Building are there some advantages to to having groups like The Schubert club and the Saint Paul chamber orchestra and other Kindred groups Under One Roof. Oh, I think so. Although we've always shared a roof for the last 10 years since I've been at the Schubert Club at 1 strictly professional Advantage for us for the shooter club and being here is that we've been developing a collection of keyboard instruments musical instruments and now or in a building where we can install them we have Large room in the basement next to the warehouse route of torium. and all the instruments with collect in the last 10 years will be House down there. We're having the installation designed by Philip Larsen who was a former curator at the Walker Art Center. You can see that model over there in the corner and how his plans are we using elevator Gates the old elevator gates for doors to the museum. They had to change those grades actually to meet the code of enclosed elevators, but we're picking up some of the old architectural detail that couldn't be reused and its original way and incorporating it into a museum. and we've been raising money for this Museum and we're all we're all set to begin on the right after this opening tomorrow or today. The first contract will expire on this building then the second contract will be let and included in that will be the finishing of the auditorium which will see 250 people in the basement. And yet I Museum which will be right next to it. And which we think will be one of the nicer attractions in the building one of the better musical instrument museums in the in the country. And that was Bruce Carlson who is the executive director for the Schubert Club one of several groups that will be headquartered here at Landmark Center in St. Paul. Landmark set a reminder look back for just a moment it May 5th 1902 which was the opening day of the original dedication of the federal courts building Governor VanZant and 87 year old Alexander Ramsey, the first territorial governor of Minnesota officiated at that ceremony on there were no fewer than eight speeches given we've had a shorter ceremony today, but it has been equally exciting with the vice president of the United States being here in st. Paul for the opening of The Landmark Center. Vice president Mondale has left the building and he's on his way now to his hometown of Elmore in southern Minnesota and by my watch we have two minutes before 11. I'd like to thank the technical directors for this program for today and Linda Marie was technical director. She was assisted ably by David Carlton felon and David Schneider. You've been listening to a live broadcast of the dedication of the Landmark Center in St. Paul the old federal courts building which is now going to serve as a focal point for the Arts in St. Paul number of groups will be headquartered here and including the Saint Paul chamber orchestra and the Schubert club, and eventually they say the same Paula and Ramsey County Historical Society as well. I'm wondering if Gary eichten is back at the studios in our downtown studios in Saint Paul.