175 music any music anytime you're listening to Minnesota Public Radio. 61 degrees with cloudy skies at the FM news station know FM. 91.1 Minneapolis-Saint Paul. It's 11. From the FM news station. This is a special Memorial Day Weekend broadcast of Saturday. Midday. Good morning on marks the deck like in the Twin Cities today on what they were going to be talking with veterans joining me after the news in the studio will be people who shipped out for World War 1 World War II Korea and Vietnam. It's a chance for you young and old to listen and to ask questions. How does war change lives? How does war change countries? Is it possible for veterans to remember fondly parts of their War years they served in different Wars decades apart still many of their experiences are shared what personally will these people these veterans? Never forget about their Wars. Midday free Veterans for Wars after the news. From national public radio news in Washington. I'm Laura knoy diplomats at the UN and NATO are holding emergency sessions today trying to decide what to do about escalating violence against UN peacekeepers in Bosnia to French peacekeepers were killed overnight in clashes with serve forces reserves are holding more than 200 un soldiers hostage as human Shields against further NATO air strikes some oven change locations that the serbs considered likely NATO Targets in Moscow. Meanwhile Russian officials say there are no immediate plans to promote a Bosnian cease-fire that despite a pledge by President Boris Yeltsin to seek an end to the fighting NPR's and girls has more the United States Britain Germany and Italy of all appeal to president Yeltsin to use his influence with the serbs yelton's replied. He'll do all he can providing NATO air attacks or halted Russian officials today condemned Bosnian Serb forces for using you and Military observers as human Shields, but they also stepped up criticism of the NATO Ariel. Coming Sergey lavrov, the Russian ambassador to the United Nations total Russian news agency that whatever you think of the Bosnian serbs totally unacceptable Behavior. It's clear air strikes have not helped noting that free Russians are among about 100 un troops being held by the Bosnian serbs laptops at NATO should have banned in the use of force and concentrate on political efforts, but officials in Moscow, we're unable to pinpoint any specific efforts Rush up my have in mind. I'm Anne garrels in Moscow the nomination of dr. Henry Foster a Surgeon General still faces obstacles, even though a senate committee has recommended the full Senate confirm UPS by Chamberlain reports has more hurdles the highest of which may be the filibuster threatened by Republican senator Phil Gramm of Texas a filibuster prevents or Senate vote on an issue, unless 60 Senators agree to insist on a boat Foster does not have 60 votes for confirmation, but it does appear to have a slender majority as Republican senator kassebaum of Kansas. None of the committee that approved Foster notes. the doctor Foster she herself opposes Foster but said she'll vote to end the filibuster as well. At least one other senator who opposed his foster Gordon of Washington how the Senate will handle Foster is not expected to be clear before Congress comes back from vacation a week from Monday Pride Chamberlain Capitol Hill Republican and Democrat on the Senate agriculture Committee of wetlands and wildlife habitat committee. Chair. Richard Lugar says the bill tries to balance the needs of Agriculture and the environment former. OJ Simpson juror Francine. Bunton says, she's glad to be out bunting told Los Angeles radio station. It was very hard to be on the jury and she's enjoying being with friends and family. Again. Bunton was dismissed on the number of misconduct claims. She denies charges that she plan to write a book. This is NPR. Good morning. It's 4 minutes past 11 from the FM news station. I'm Chris Roberts St. Paul. Jury has awarded nearly nine million dollars to a woman and her daughter injured in a car accident 8 years ago. Bonnie Blackmore has been a quadriplegic since the 1987 accident on Interstate 94 near Evansville in West Central Minnesota. Like Moore's daughter Leah cannot speak and is partially paralyzed another Blackburn daughter. Jenny was driving the family Volkswagen when it hit a patch of ice and was hit by a semi trailer truck misses Blackmore had sued her daughter Jenny through her insurance company along with Volkswagen and the truck driver the jury determine that Volkswagen and the truck driver were not negligent. But that Jenny Blackmore was Travelers Insurance Company argued. The accident wasn't her fault and was simply the result of an icy Road. Minnesota Motor has faced the highest gasoline prices since 1991 as they had it away from home for the Memorial Day weekend. That's according to a survey done for AAA Minnesota the survey by computer petroleum Corporation found the average price of Self Serve unleaded gasoline is 1 Dollar and $0.21 a gallon highest since April 1991 four months after the end of the Persian Gulf War. Although gasoline prices are high a weekly survey of the petroleum industry by the Minnesota public service department, state has more gasoline available than normal last week. The figure was nearly 1.8 million barrels of gasoline significantly more than the three-year average of nearly 1.5 million barrels. Widely, scattered showers are expected in the Northern parts of our region occasional showers in a few thunderstorms in Rochester highest from the low 50s and the extreme Northeast of the middle 60s around Rochester in Duluth cloudy and 59 cloudy in the Twin Cities and 59 as well. That's the latest news on Chris Roberts Saturday. Midday. Good morning at marks the deck like in the Twin Cities for many this weekend Memorial Day weekend is little more than a 3-day vacation a time to celebrate the beginning of summer for others. However with the annual arrival of Memorial Day come painful memories of family members and Friends lost to war today at midday. We've brought together three veterans their combined experiences include fighting in World War World War II and Korea and a struggle in makeshift operating rooms to save the lives of fallen soldiers in Vietnam following a chronological line of introduction. I would like to welcome Bill Halsey who As a twenty-year-old shipped out for France in the Army Air Force in 1917 to fight in World War One, good morning. Mr. Halsey, and thanks for coming in this morning. Also with me in the studio is John O'Neill? Mr. O'Neill enlisted in the Marines in 1942 and fought in World War II then late in the summer of 1950 John O'Neill left the US again for war in Korea. Good morning to you John O'Neill. Thanks for coming in this morning. Finally. Also joining me this morning is Mary breed who in 1970 headed for Vietnam where she worked as an Army Nurse for a year breed served in operating room as an operating nurse in Vietnam. Thank you for being here. Thank you all for being here. If you have a question or comment for Bill Halsey John O'Neill or Mary Bridge. You can join our conversation by calling 227-6000. If you're listening in the Twin Cities area, that's to 276 thousand in the metro area anywhere else you're listening this morning. You can call toll-free with your questions and comments are toll free number is one 800-242-2828. Toll free number. Once again one 800-242-2828. Let's start things off with a few more details about each of you. Mr. Bill Hulsey your 98 years old right now you were 20 when you became involved in World War 1 tell us about the circumstances if you would what how did you end up in World War 1 World War 1 was declared on my birthday April 6th 1917. I have no problem in remembering when World War 1 started. I was born in Missouri raised on the Prairies of North Dakota are closest town for 3 years was 46 Mi you didn't run to the corner grocery store for a loaf of bread or a bottle of milk in the morning. You had to go to shopping two or three times a year. I joined the Army Air Force for the purpose of being able to get up in the sky as a kid. I always replying tights and things of that nature riding horses bucking Broncos. It isn't an easy life on the Prairie Ridge in North Dakota. It wasn't easy in the service either. I seen a difference in the transportation of the Army and the Army Air Force today and wanted was when I was in there the planes we had or crackerbox is compared to what they have today the rank-and-file of the air force today. I never heard of a major or lieutenant colonel. Within two years after he joined the service getting that type of a rank. I call them suicide ranks that they give them title show that take them planes and go up and do too but I can understand that why it why they did that give them that service. How did you end up going to World War one and shipping out when you were 20 years old. Did you and Lester were you have to know I enlisted in the in the Air Force was shipped to 11th St. Louis Missouri from there. I went to Kelly Field Texas telling people, Texas and went to Waco Texas to tell a pair of field where I got my training as a pilot went overseas. They came out with the ruling if you didn't have a college education, you couldn't be a flyer. So I became the mechanic on the plane and I'll tell you you fix them planes and you hung a ticket on them that they were ready for flight because of cap. May I ask you to go up with him to prove that your work was all right. You didn't hang a ticket on it ready for flight unless it was ready to go. Okay. Let's move on. Now. How about you you went about enlisting in the Marine Corps? And how are your circumstances described how you got involved in? Well, that was kind of easy. I had a high draft number in 1942 and another fellow and I were out having a few drinks over the weekend and we decided on a Monday we were going to join the Marines so it our lunch break. We left and went over to Minneapolis on across from the old Milwaukee Depot. The federal building is still there. And I walked in first in the Marine Recruiting office and went through the whole process of the physical and what not and I kept looking around with my friend was and he wasn't there and when I get after I got all signed up and got outside. He was sitting on the steps as what happened to you. He's so I changed my mind I enlisted in the Navy instead. So we separated then I didn't meet him again until last year and he ended up being called up for curry also, and so after four years in the Marine Corps and So when I got home and 46 I had an offer for a commission in the reserves. They made us an offer to have a commission in the reserves. And I took that and it was in active duty and not even weekend warrior bit until 1949 got active in. The reserve unit has Naval Air Station and and we will recall for the Korean War on August 1st of 1950. We were at a left here on the 5th of August went off, California on aboard ship on the 15th of August and we made the landing at inchon on the 15th of September. And then after that war was over, I mean it wasn't really over many of us got that was a piecemeal War rather than the Forgotten War we came home came home third 11 months later. And then I was discharged in a release from active duty really in January of 1952 and back to civilian life. That's what I've been. Okay, Mary breed your turn. How did you end up in Vietnam? And you have something you want to read? I understand it and tells my story early one morning that it was asked to speak to Vietnam Vietnam veterans group. And so I wrote this on short essay that kind of tells how I got involved early one morning. I drove to the Minnesota Vietnam Veterans Memorial St. Paul and I read the now-familiar words. We were young we have died remembered us. We need Salon clear row of names or some flowers and notes left by family and friends as I stood the reflecting. I wondered what those names. See if they could speak how did their mothers with Dan the news of her death. I thought of those still unaccounted for and remember. Important. It was to see Dan's body, even though it was covered with glass to contain the smell little did. I know two years later. I would become acquainted with us filmed in 1968. My brother Dale served in nam all the wounded. He returned home to family and friends. In 1968, my friend and I dancing a feeling my brother and friend were worth saving. I joined the AMC in 1969 despite people saying if you take care of those guys the Warriors will last forever. After 25 years of memories still bring back smiles and tears now when people question my intentions I asked Were You There When my first patients came into triage? They were to Vietnamese children with white phosphorus Burns. They died. My very first patients died shortly after they were followed by 5 or being so hit a mine. I learn quickly. What happened with Y on my I began to hate the words to Star Chick of the hip. I remember when Dale came in I was scrubbed in the OR with my back turned away from the or table the CRNA Sedalia going to sleep will take good care of you upon hearing those words. I must have turned pale because one of the doctors asked if I could do the case I said, I'd be fine. I know my brother Dale was safe at home. I just needed a minute as I turned and saw the unbelievable dirt mud and blood blown into his body and wanted to cry. Dale did the routine 2 a.m. Bleed we go to ICU to pack and we pack his wounds are Evac started at 5 a.m. We had lost three tries before jail came to us. So when the doctor said, let's go to map with blood and see if we can get him home. I can to nail the PIN to note to Dale's pajamas, and I know Dale made it to Japan, but I don't know if you made it home. Were You There When doctors decided who received the last available respirator or when I held a Vietnamese baby dying from tetanus will you there when I desktop Crews were told to stay away from the DMZ we were to wait for pows three days later no pows we did receive for injured Special Forces patients I didn't ask how many died in the attempt to save others Were you there when we did cleft lip and palate repair in Vietnamese children or I took the hand of the only Survivor of an ambush I can still see that look in his eyes. Were you there when we worked in a GI who drowned her and isn't country R&R or I saw the beauty of Vietnam from the top of monkey mountain or if we be there when I GI Chris to me because we amputated both his legs secretary to gangrene. He said he'd rather die. Maybe he did from sepsis or from his own hands or you were there when I sat with the young man who lost his arms from a booby trap the missing arms a really disturbing arms are for hugging. As Trapper's Landing the both sides of high school and queen tree. David was the first young man. I met in triage. Both of his eyes were burned my quickly irrigated them applied dressings since he was stable I moved on to the next to you is to continue to work at call back today to see how he's doing. Suddenly. I was reassigned to the other side of the hospital. I was told we receive 75 wounded in 15 minutes. There was a kid with head injuries just before he became a phasic I go to the name of that take I think it was John. I've been quickly enough to ask your names and where they were in the states. So am I sterile for memories include being around kids and young man and not dying without knowing their name. When I return to the first triage area David had been evacuated Jackie said before he left David called out. Tell Mary goodbye. I wish I could have said goodbye. I wonder how he's doing one day. I'll go to Pilot landed helipad and how he made it on never know by the time I came and got it out. He came out he had seizure activity II hypoxia. It was my turn to hang blood so I did for his case on the way back to Couch has stopped at the chapel to pray because I didn't want to send another young man home. We couldn't recognize this family. I pleaded with God just let him die that night the next day of searching brought me to his bedside and help me do math problems. There is no brain damage. She was like God has said Mary you never never decide who lives or dies in this war. He were here to do the best you can and that's all. Vietnam taught me the horrors of War 4 women children and she is like and I would not wish you were my worst enemy. If I had a daughter, I would not encourage her to join the military. Although I would do it again cuz I would not sell out my brother and friends like a government did I often wonder if things would have been different if the Vietnam had oil if anything good comes out of a war gets increase in medical knowledge knowledge is septic shock a Darius and PTs are few from Nam how healthy men died and body and spirit and closing. I would like to say the Vietnam showed me how a diverse group of people could work closely together to all of you who are metics Chopper crew members Korman nurses doctors grave cruise and cooks that I had the privilege to serve with in Vietnam. I want to say, thank you and may God grant you his. Peace. Thank you Mary. That's Mary breed. Who was an Army Nurse and Vietnam. She's a guest here with me today on Saturday. Midday as is John O'Neill a veteran from World War II and Korea and mr. Bill Hulsey who is a veteran of World War 1 the number to call if you'd like to join our conversation this morning is to 276 thousand. That's if you were in the Twin Cities anywhere else, you can hear the broadcast. You can call toll free at 1 800 see here. What is the toll free number one 800-242-2828. It's about 19 minutes past 11 when it gets to some calls and just a second. There is some real on the line to four people interested in getting on I wanted to ask you that you folks. So did any of you have any idea what you actually were getting into when you ended up shipping out whether it was for World War 1 World War 2 Korea or Mary's case Vietnam. Well, I realized this is Bill Halsey the World War 1 veteran. I realized it wasn't going to be any picnic because I had read stories and seen pictures of the war in Germany going on since 1914. So it already 3 years of war ahead of world war one that is involvement of the United States and its July News is it wasn't going to be picking potatoes? Okay, John any thoughts John O'Neill the World War II veteran and a Korean War veteran. I don't think I really realized what I was doing. When I am listed in World War II the one create came along when we set off the inchon as they were showing me or you I knew what was going to what we were going to run into and it was a different experience one thing I noticed yesterday in because I'm a Korean veteran too, and I don't agree with some of the Korean veterans about calling it a forgotten War yesterday. I went to a funeral up in a small town in, Wisconsin. And I couldn't believe the number of flags in that small farming Community. I didn't think a lot of people that were farmers were drafted during World War II and then I found out that 75% of the young men in that tone ended up in the military and so World War II everybody in where is Korea and Vietnam and stretch over such a long. Of time that people are in and out of the military and the rest of the people in the United States unless they had a family member in the military didn't know war was going on. So I think of Korea told me that sometimes we can't get involved. So don't call him. Please hack turn your pee smell more and we shouldn't get involved in those single World War II was a World War. I like more than one. I think it's something that our government has got to consider before they send people off to things like that and I have a son in Vietnam as a program continues Mary. Did you have any thoughts just about the question as to whether he had any idea of what you were getting into when you went to Vietnam? No, I was very naive. I think we're all idealistic. I think we respected the men and women that served before in other words and just had no idea we spend some time here at the top of the program giving an introduction as to who is here. Now that you folks listening know who were talking to this morning. It's a good chance for you to talk to these people as well and ask her the questions you'd like to ask of them to 276 thousand is a number to call if you're listening in the Twin Cities one. 800-242-2828 is a number to call if you're listening outside of the Metro. Are you can call toll free at one 800-242-2828. Let's go to Bob who is been patiently waiting in Brooklyn Center. Good morning around the FM news station free of you for doing what you've done to give me the freedom that I've got. And I want to thank all the other veterans that are still living in those who dyed their families for the trials and sacrifices that they have given so that we've got the greatest country on Earth. I got a question for mr. Halsey about the years experience in World War 1 and I'm concerned about the current Serbian situation and any information that you could give that would help me understand that situation as it occurred in 1917 would be helpful. I'm going to hang up and okay. Thanks, Bob. Go ahead. Mr. Halsey. I can't quite relate World War II this conflict that we have in serving that day. That is Awards that they have had among themselves every since man and as long as they are man and knows countries, they will be War. Okay, do you folks feel like you're appreciated by the rest of the people back here back in the United States who did not fight in a war and did not support directly the with the war effort. Do you feel that when you walking down the street and went and when you're introduced as a veteran that people? Appreciate what you folks have done certainly do they? Return of the World War 1 veteran was treated with the highest respect when he returned from overseas. But I think most people appreciate it a misunderstanding a lot of ways, you know, they talked about people good friend of mine and Son came home during Vietnam, but he was on leave probably going to Vietnam and he ended up being killed in Vietnam, but he had them up by protesters at the airport. They called him a baby color and next night another friend and I we will not we're going to take care of those protesters, but we didn't find any wrong but even during World War II I happen to be home in May of 1945 and I was on my way back overseas and I was riding the streetcar between Minneapolis and st. Paul and those days you have to wear uniform you couldn't go in your backyard with your tie on hitch for your sleeves rolled up you had a feast presentable. Inspection and by the guy told me on the streetcar. He says well I met you glad in the war is over in the war in Europe was over but I was headed for the Pacific. So even then it would people think if they have a family member in the military than they know was a war is going on. Otherwise, they don't think you're shaking your head. I really don't know how to reply to that. I think as a nurse the people I worked with the corpsman I worked with and other people took care of the young soldiers. They took care of always show their appreciation the respect I think TV shows and movies have caused me a little difficulty because I think the stereotyping I'm has really hurt when I spent many hours with people dying to have it made light of and I think is round on the Vietnam era was extremely different and hopefully our country is learn from it. Let's keep the conversation going to go to a listener. Now. We have a Byron who's on the line from a dyna. Good morning to honorable discharge is one of the PFC from the Infantry World War II and another is a first lieutenant in the medical Pro and I am looking at a clipping from the Star Tribune of Tuesday, December 13th, 1994. And the headline says benefits allowed for no fault injuries at VA hospital and I'll keep it brief by just saying the first paragraph says the Supreme Court ruled Monday that the federal government pay benefits to Ventura cars by veterans hospitals, even when the hospitals were not careless that granted or otherwise, it's called where can I find more information about this? Apparently those back to a 1924 statute that plays ignored for a very long time that said that the compensation as a result of medical or surgical treatment of stepping up to the plate here. Go ahead John you can get some information if you if you have a problem at a VA Hospital VA Hospitals. Number one have patient Representatives one that I know what the VA hospital is a Kathy Larson and if you call 2072 5 mm and ask for that patient rep. I'm sure she can help you the other thing Veterans of Foreign Wars, which I've been active in Hazard claims officer had fought at Fort Snelling and that's 7 2 6 1 7 7 7 +. If you want to contact the commissioner of Veterans Affairs, veteran's service building has to 96256 too. And if if you're in Hennepin County or Ramsey County if you look in the county form in the regular telephone book for Ramsey County or Hennepin County and look for County veterans service office. They can help you. Hello, John. Yes, go ahead release over my experience as my father had it for myself and my father was a World War 1 veteran and it says story about the immigrants. They came to America during that. Of time 1912. My father came to America 1912 is an immigrant from Greece and he ended up in the International Falls running a little joint. They call the Sunday brunch. I don't know how I ever got there. But you did 1917. It was 1917 in the winter of 17 during the army. Any ship them off from Grand Rapids Minnesota property Rudy of 1918, maybe January or February. 1918. Grand Rapids went to where they ship them to Texas joined up there. They put them in of the 90th division the Tiano they called themselves a tough Hombres. It was a Texas and Oklahoma Division and they were they trained outside of San Antonio Texas set up at that time. You called the camp Travis, Texas and it was near the the old Del Amo and then they shipped over to Germany sometime in the middle of 1918. They probably got the German sometime in June July something like this. Time frame and they got the journey is division got the Germany, but they miss the the battle of the chefs and three in the next battle that they went into with the Satan healed Salient and they put the 90th division up against the Hindenburg line that time the Germans were defending the line was a huge American Operations Division up against this Lane and they called The Wheel back and it was a High Ridge which is a very difficult part of the human vagina. And that's when he put the 90th division my father the the evening before the zero Hour. I think the battle took place sometime in September of 1980. But they took units from the 90th Division and made up this Battalion. They call me later on. It was all the Battalion the death where the infant infiltrated the the German Frontline no, man's land to try to blow up and disrupt some of their Communications and blow up their ammunition dumps behind the front line. They were caught in the middle of no-man's-land in the heart of a hundred fifty men volunteered for this operation any 26 remained my father eventually crawl back to the front line in the early in the morning about 5 or 6 in the morning with dessert anyone over the top. barbed wire and it was very terrible. Machine guns machine guns and mortar. Play my father my father made it to that battle. You fought hand-to-hand in the front line trenches up with the Germans and the Americans defeated. The Germans are in the battle the same as it was a great victory in the end of the war and they push the Germans back. And later on I think the United division was one of the first inventions that enter Germany across the Meuse River. But in the meantime, there was another battle left are they called the meuse-argonne forest at the Battle of the of the Argonne Forest? That's where my father was gas by German shells. and he was unconscious by the gas when we never did find out what type of gas it was, but they pick them up on the battlefield assuming that he was dead and they brought him back to the burial place where they had all the American troops that died in that in that particular showing. And 3 days later. They were going to bury my father in three days later. Just before they were going to bury my father there. He came out of the the gas. Andy Rubin the field hospital and he recovered and he went back in and joined up with his outfit again, but the war came to an end and night in November of 1918 when my father was gassy send a telegram back to my uncle Victor was still living here in America in Hibbing Minnesota and that my father was killed in action. The mountain Nick wrote a letter to his mother back in Greece. The sun was killed. Chris was killed. Later on, my my father the 90th Division I ended up is in the army of occupation. They were in Germany for one year and was stationed at in the German Village or town of Westphalia. Baby feeder for you're in the army of occupation. That's when my father went to the local German photography studio in Westphalia and his picture taken. He sent it back to his mother in Greece proving to her that it was still alive. My father came back to American Trade office lights, but this is a story. About the involvement of some of the early immigrants that came to America in the first war and Bill. How's he want? You talk a little bit about that pretty hard to follow the memories of that. He's got more vivid memory of us. Can I have I don't remember only a partial part of what are you're saying there that certainly was a bloody war and it was a lot of hand-to-hand fighting the hand grenades that gas is at he's talkin about if it's the same one that I got. It was mustard gas. shower I can't add very much more to it than what he has said. It was maybe a different type of fighting than the type of fighting people will certainly in Vietnam War experienced. Probably different than in World War. One thing I read about one thing. They set their machine guns a fire about 18 inches off the ground and they would wound the people so I had somebody hitting the likes it took two people to carry them out. So they were the technology they used in war was a lot different when we got the World War II airplane became a factor and close her support develop Napalm and it was completely different war in Vietnam again. Who was too political to call? It just irritates me more to get you take ground. Give up ground take ground give up ground and I was involved in that while we pull out of the Chosin Reservoir and came back and crossed the 38th parallel pull back from the 38th. Parallel went over the 38th parallel came back and you just retook around like they they must have practice in Korea to do Vietnam and go back and forth. Okay at 18 minutes before 12 noon you listening to Saturday. Midday on the FM news station were talking about war today on Saturday. Midday and with me are three veterans who was experiences Total. Db25 Wars John O'Neill is Syracuse a World War II and Korean War veteran. Mr. Bill Hulsey is here. He is a World War 1 veteran Mary breed is he or she is a Vietnam veteran to 276 thousand is a number to call if you're listening in the Twin Cities to 276 thousand. If you have a question or comment anywhere else, you can hear the broadcast. You can call toll-free 1-800 242-2828. Let's go to Craig who's Bill. I think we're going to William was in Moorhead. Go ahead William good evening or good morning gentleman you for all you did for America and we have to fight for Freedom. Sometimes it's threatened and we could possibly lose it and I feel the United Nations hasn't done to an awfully lot to make the world a much safer place and the seems to be more Nation since World War II to acquire nuclear weapons technology a lot more countries must be nearly a dozen and my question is do you believe nuclear weapons will eventually be used in Warfare between nations even little tiny Israel has over 200 nuclear warheads. You think they'll really actually be used. Thank you very much. Bill, I think it will happen if she has to be a chemical warfare to end all wars will be a chemical warfare in my opinion. When you look at the technology associated with war right now feel Halsey at from your Vantage Point your 98 years old you were talking before the program about I've seen so many changes in transportation and communication over the years when you look at just a technology for right now. What do you think? I think that is I said it will be a chemical warfare. It's the only way that there can be Wesley mechanical board Fair. Machine guns bombs and all of that it's going to be chemical warfare in my opinion that ain't voice very much. Is anybody else want to add something to that or should we move on to another caller? Okay. Let's take another call the first time when I get the number of we do have some room on the line to right now if you want to get through to 276 thousand the number to call in the Twin Cities one 800-242-2828 the number to call anywhere else, you're listening. That's a toll-free number so few in the Twin Cities, you want to join the conversation to 276 thousand anywhere else you listening. You can get the right now at one 800-242-2828. Let's go to use in Plymouth. Go ahead Lottery. Yes, good morning. And I'd like to thank all the Veterans for their service. I'm a member of the Minnesota Korean War Veterans Chapter 1 and I bleed son is a member of our chapter and he can tell you about the memorial but what I'd like to talk about are the women who serve many of us served and support services and we always care about the nurses and the nursing staff that serve but death over 10,000 women served from Minnesota during the Korean war in all branches of the military and that's what's on the second world war. And the first world war in Vietnam. And this means like mechanic sucks Crooks clerk typist medical records entertainers and I don't think enough is said about our Support Services particular from Korea many people think no women served it. Katherine krecioch, and I wanted to stay that our freedom is never free and we are so fortunate fortunate in our country many of us take our freedom for granted by not working out our problems together, and I just like to thank you all very much against thank you, they deserve or not. And Mariah breed for the record for people listening is a veteran of the Vietnam War. She was an Army Nurse for a year there. I am I think women are starting to get recognition. I'm going to cause a little flurry with what I'm going to say next. I respected the women who I knew serve before me as pilots during World War II training here in the United States. And also I think you hear more about nurses special from our area is because of the fact that most of the women in Vietnam War nurses 11,000 the support group was over 600,000 and you can't go zebra noise. You can't do the job without the support. I personally like I said, I wouldn't wish it were my worst. Enemy. Therefore I would not want a woman to see what I saw. So I'm not a very person to push equal rights when it comes to a war and I'm sorry to say that. Okay. Mr. Halsey. Did you have something to add to that you were kind of sitting up toward the microphone there the person that we forget all about Is a person that was shade at home and supplied the ammunition and all of these things went to Food. They're the ones that need some recognition. They're never recognized as a part of the war. But without them that stayed at home for no reason of Their Own. They're the ones that needs to get some credit because we couldn't have did anything without them back home supplying the necessary equipment for us to do the job with do you think the country? Mr. Halsey is able right now to come together the way it came together and World War II and during the time of World War II. Where is today? But I guess I'm not saying just for what for anyting. I don't know. I'm not much of a politician. I don't believe that the United States. can what would you say furnish the necessary support and Patrol the whole world is that we're doing today. I I don't see our involvement in tonight. I see why I don't see any reason why we're involved in all of this. That supposed to World War 1 and World War II maybe when there were clear those were a little different conflicts in we have today and what we're trying to do is control the whole world. Like preventing conflict and I don't know how that can be done because it it don't look that good to me. That is Bill Hulsey. He's a 98 year old veteran of world war yesterday here on Saturday. Midday as is John O'Neill a veteran of World War II and the Korean War and finally marry breed a veteran of the Vietnam War were talking about war today on this Memorial Day weekend to 276 thousand is a number to call if you have a question or comment for any of my guests to 276 thousand in the Twin Cities anywhere else, you're listening to call toll-free to join the conversation the toll free numbers one 800-242-2828 go to Bob who has been waiting in Minneapolis. Go ahead. I'd like to talk to mr. O'Neill. He said he left the Naval Air Station August 1st 1950. My brother. I was lucky enough to be recalled and spend my time Stateside in the Air Force. He went to the Sun than in Shawn Mendes both on the same unit 1st Battalion 1st regiment 1st Marines. I assume the gentleman was at the and I would like to have a military observation. If it were not for General pullers liberal interpretation of mr. MacArthur's Fleet orders. Allowed him to cover his behind as he went to the chosen. Death disaster not have been as great as the earlier Feliz by the same general at Lynn guy in golf when nothing was set up. He went with one Regiment of a hundred thousand trained Filipinos and then wound up in Baton totally unprepared for people who don't understand exactly what the colonel of chesty puller Marine General with the 1st Marine Division. We went around up the Chosin Reservoir in the 24th. Army division was on our right flank over the Earth. Army went north of Seoul they ran in opposition and The planning that was done by the generals and you're talkin about General MacArthur figuring he could finish the war by Christmastime. Nobody planned on the hordes of Chinese armies coming across. I can't remember the name of the river up on the North of yellow and I don't think they planned on it and then the other I think the other problem we had and we had it in Vietnam. We had in Creole you couldn't bomb in the Chinese are you can bomb in Cambodia you couldn't you couldn't bomb in-laws and I don't know if you if you give total blame to the military, you got to give some blame to the political end of it. All things are done all we got involved. I think the important thing is we have so many people entered into the military in what were Overlooking in one way is that the people who won in the military word by their training at a serve wherever they were sent and they tried to do the best job possible. I got involved in things that were involved mostly in political decisions. And the bad part is that you can't go back and change what happened before and you got to live with the wrong so it wrong decisions that were made and hopefully it won't happen again program former Secretary of Defense Bob McNamara coming on the book and saying Vietnam was a mistake John O'Neill, you're rolling your eyes Mary. You're shaking your head Mister Halsey. What do you folks? Think about that is important to come out on the record as as he did and how should that have been done should have been done 20 years ago. No comment. No comment. Mr. Halsey Bill Hulsey a veteran of World War. I don't know enough of the particulars to give an intelligent answers to it. I used to debate what went on in Vietnam War the we were right or wrong when President Kennedy sent troops into Vietnam by they call them and visors but at that time from 59 to 61 the country was doing better except in 60 double the production of rice. They were able to export race. They were electing leaders in The Villages. Then the economy. They're moving 61 and within the two-year. They were able to cut the size of the schools and 1/2. They executed over a hundred and I believe was no 13,000. Of Village leaders and what not and that's when the war started I think we made bad decisions on the information. We had and McNamara if he was wrong, then he should have said something but he was one of the advisors that Presidents had and I think was poor advice to bring a book out at this time. What do you think I imagined? That was an emotional thing for you to hearing? I'm very opinionated for obvious reasons. I wish and I can't I don't want to call him a gentleman. I wish you would have stuck to his principles. I can imagine how difficult it was to live with this knowledge that he sent so many people's young Sons to die death. I believe in accountability for your life and I feel mr.mac married and after reading this book will be held accountable for what he did to you folks feel that there has been enough discussion about the different Wars. The United States has been involved with an enough objective discussion and and Analysis of why the country got involved with different conflicts and how the country handled himself during those conflicts. Is this apart a missing part of the educational experience young people go through in this country. Mr. Halsey, I don't know if you have something to say or John or study war and it should be done in schools. And today with this being the 50th anniversary of World War II the end of World War II do you think more study had been done in the history books and in the schools so wouldn't happen again and hopefully they'll do it at the 50th anniversary of career and I hope we don't have to wait for the 50th anniversary of Vietnam because it'll be another generation of past and certainly they could get us into another war. In fact, we're sitting on the edge Awards right now analysts are politicians learn how to make certain the right decision instead of these wrong decisions that is related to we're going to have words with Another generation of tour earlier in the program. You mentioned that you concerned about movies and the drama side of a Vietnam being portrayed and misleading people giving people false information about what really went on there and why it went on there. Maybe you don't want to add anything more than that. Let's go to the phones in and take another call. Eric is on the line from Fridley. Thanks for waiting on the FM news station. Good morning portrayal of Warren in movies. And it's for many of us are prime exposure to what has been through. The media was wondering is there any films are television program that are bad really reflected your experiences, and if so, which one then if not, what would you alter or want to see portrayed? Thanks for calling. I don't know if I could recommend a television show but I can recommend a book called shrapnel in the heart. It's some written by Laurel Palmer and what she did was she went to Vietnam Veterans Memorial and this is a book. I would recommend to teenagers and she followed up with things that were left there. And I think her book really goes into or is it about and that's about death and dying about people who gave their lives for the people they were with their I think these two gentlemen I'm with here today know that only too well about how close you get to the people that you're serving with. And dumb as far as television goes out. I don't know if it's wise to have a show about war. Cuz I think sometimes you can then make it acceptable. I don't know if I'm coming across correctly on this. I would like to see these men here and other men and women who experience we're from all different angles. Maybe do something for about peace. I don't know if I can get this across right? But I I really I think we seen the silence on TV and I think people are dulled by that and then when the reality is when someone dies, it's it's a human being so like that's only thing to say. Okay. Let's go back to the phones and move on here ads on the line from Minneapolis. Good morning for having these people on I guess first of all, I want to take all of them for our service to our country and and I appreciate it. And my question I guess was to going to go out to all of them. But you kind of already have disgusted. I guess since our government or elected officials are made up of humans and humans make humans make mistakes. It's easy to look back on those mistakes and and feel resentful. But but I guess I want to do my best to support our elected officials at this point in time. How does how do you guys feel you know, I got the biggest war would be you're not the biggest war but they The war that has had a lot of talk is the Vietnam War and whether we made the right and wrong decision, how do you how should we feel about about it? When government when the government thinks they're all wrong decision. I mean do we just have to get up and and move Beyond it and I guess your comments. I think the number one we've got to do is make sure that our military is prepared regardless of what the political implications are getting us involved in a war if we do everything so our troops are prepared. We're not going to have the casualties. We might have by not being prepared cuz we were going to send people into situations that is going to be hazardous. So they should have the best equipment available shouldn't be like Korea or we didn't have the cold weather gear that we should have had if we did. We have known for cold-weather. They wouldn't have had all the frostbite problems in the Chosin Reservoir. And even in Desert Storm. We were unprepared for what might have happened in the it was a medication or prevention what some of the medication did let everything that has been good for us as civilians. Some of the things that have been developed by the military and whatnot in the schools today and what we have in computers if it wouldn't have been the pressure the military do improve computers we wouldn't have it. So I think number one we got to make sure that we have equipment for our military. So we don't don't lose people if we get involved in some type of War how much should civilians be a part of the debate for the whole debate about whether it is worth or not worth getting involved in this conflict of that conflict or should it be left up to the government because the Jose Baston has more information than the civilians throw that out there. I don't know Mary. You're shaking your head. Go ahead. Again, I'm so opinionated and I know your listeners are intelligent people and realize that I saw the effects of demonstrations back home your house affected to where I was at. I'll be honest with you. I protest at the Gulf War at the University of Minnesota. However, when the troops were sent I totally supported them because I know what it's like to be in a war zone and not have a support. I believe you have a responsibility and I think you should see you should speak up. I think this gentleman and I thank God it was a different generation and I can I show them I'm going to respect for what they did. I don't know what else to say. What did you learn most from your experience in Vietnam? And if we can do this very quickly. Unfortunately, we're running out of time and I probably knew this before but was brought home or that what's important thing in life is relationships first with your creator than your family your friends the community here at home. And also that world Community. What did you learn most from your experiences in World War 1 once again run quite a time pressure here. The same that I learnt of the war. Is it a human being the suffering that goes on on both sides? It's not a one-sided Affair both sides the enemy Shoppers as well as we do it should not have to be. Okay Bill Hulsey. Thanks very much for being here. I also appreciate everyone else was here. Mary breed and John O'Neill. Thank you very much going to have to wrap it up on that note the technical director for the program a Clifford Bentley and Jeff Conrad anything's to John Gordon for his work with the phones. Thank you for listening and have a safe weekend. Minnesota Public Radio news is supported in part by the oriental rug company celebrating its 10th anniversary year at 50th and Bryant in Minneapolis. Will Chris Roberts not a very sunny day today, huh? No, not a very good way to kick off the Memorial Day weekend, but at least it's a long weekend and that's something that's valuable in our lives these days. Let's check the weather forecast the updated forecast for the Twin Cities. This afternoon scattered showers and an isolated thunderstorm late this afternoon highs in the low 60s for tonight in the Twin Cities and periods of showers and thunderstorms Lowe's and Loda mid-50s for Sunday. Mostly cloudy and Breezy showers are still likely a high in the low to mid sixties now from Memorial Day. There is a chance of showers in the morning in the Twin Cities. Mostly cloudy skies. I'm afraid in the afternoon a low around 50° and a high around 70. So that sums it up pretty nicely some current weather conditions around the region in St. Cloud cloudy skies and 63 Duluth cloudy and 59 light rain in Rochester and 55 in the Twin Cities cloudy and 57. Hello, this is Gary. I can invite him to join us for our Memorial Day edition of midday will hear from Robert McNamara and his Reflections on McNamara's War. But it begins at 11 on the FM news station. Kalw FM 91.1. Cloudy and 57° at the FM news station k n o w FM 91.1 Minneapolis Saint Paul time is 12 noon. 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