Carleton Lecture: Patricia Schroeder - Election 1988, What Does the Future Hold for America?

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Patricia Schroeder, a Colorado congresswoman, speaks at Carleton College in Northfield, Minnesota as part of Carleton Lecture series. Schroeder addressed the need for reducing the deficit, spending more of our money on education, day care, and health coverage…and less on military projects. After speech, Loeb answered audience questions, including voter turnout being low because of registering difficulty, the last presidential election, legalizing drugs, Roe vs. Wade, Jack Kemp, and reelection of congressional incumbents.

Schroeder is a graduate of the University of Minnesota and Harvard Law School and is serving her 9th term in congress. Known as "the conscience of the congress", Schroeder is a member of the House Arms Services Committee, the Judiciary Committee, and the House Select Committee on Children, Youth and Family. She is a primary sponsor of the Equal Rights Amendment.

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(00:00:00) Let me say it's always wonderful to be in Minnesota in January. And since I was a student here, I should know better. Right? No, it really is. What a great and wonderful State and having gone to the University of Minnesota. I've always been very very respectful of the tremendous institutions that's in this state and this is one of the best I've been here before and my niece Heather Hood graduated from here. My husband used to have a girlfriend that went here that I was glad I beat out. But other than that, it's good to be here. I must also say it's always great fun to be able to be on college campuses. As you heard I do have kids kind of in this Edge age frame. I was telling people behind stage one of my favorite phone calls. My daughter is now in the middle of exams and she called the other night just doubled over laughing her roommate had called home and said to her father and this story is true. Someone had gotten stabbed in the library. So she didn't think she should study in the library anymore and the father said chance it. So they were saying, you know parents aren't as sympathetic as they used to be. What is this? What's happening? (00:01:21) Well, as I (00:01:22) also look at this topic the 1988 election. What's the future for America? I am I don't know where to go with this. Let me tell you I think. I think I just have turned my crystal ball in. I had to do some commentating on Good Morning America and some other places on Reagan's farewell speech so I have been thinking about what I would have been saying in 1980 and if I had been standing up here and one of you have would have said do you think Ronald Reagan will leave office eight years later with the largest deficit America's ever seen I'd say. No. The one thing he really is going to do is get the debt under control. Well, I would have been wrong. If you would have said to me, do you think Ronald Reagan is going to leave office eight years later with the biggest government America's ever had and asking for a fifty percent pay increase for everyone. I just said are you kidding? You didn't listen to anything. The man said pay more attention in these elections. And I would have been wrong and if you would have said do you think Ronald Reagan will leave here wishing the leader of the Soviet Union? Well, I would have said you want to get your hearing checked because I mean this is the evil empire man. So I was sitting there listening to his ending and his speech and thinking wow, I would have never guessed. This is where we would have gone largest debt largest government fifty percent pay increase require requested by the president in his commission, and he wishes Gorbachev. Well, Okay. Now I also don't know which George Bush re-elected. I don't know if we elected the George Bush that was pre-1980 or the George Bush of this campaign. If we elected the pre 1981 things are going to be a lot different than if we elected the one of the campaign I thought during the campaign he was running for Sheriff. (00:03:35) And (00:03:39) but the pre 1981 was calling what we've just been through voodoo economics, which I think we just proved was right and lots of other things so we don't really know as yet what we've got. The one thing that has happened in the 80s is we have been taught in politics that the visual cancels the verbal. You know what you see is all that matters. That's pretty scary to me and it ought to be pretty scary to all of us who were thinking reading people. I think we're only five percent of the population anymore. We're becoming extinct but the visual does seem to keep canceling the verbal and some way we've got to get the verbal and thinking back in at least on an equal plane with the visual. But so I don't know exactly where we're going to go the next four years eight years or whatever. I do know they're going to be some of the most important years we're going to have they're going to be some of the most important years because we're closing out the 20th century and we're laying the foundation for the 21st the 20th century was clearly the American Century. What's the 21st going to be called? And what's our role going to be and the people in this room are the real shareholders in that Century boy if you aren't concerned about that. It's all over. So these next few years were really going to be charting that course. I thought the most profound thing in Reagan's farewell speech was his closing if you listen carefully. He really appeared to be a very perplexed man. Now really, I mean think about what he said. He said that while the entire world appeared to be turning to democracy that oppression and autocratic governments were really in Retreat all over the world more and more people were moving toward our form of government. He went on to say more and more Americans were turning their back on our form of government. Remember he started talking about maybe we aren't educating people enough and and my favorite part was when he said kids if your parents aren't talking to you about patriotism at the nightly dinner table nail him to the wall Heavenly days. He's inciting Rebellion among our young people. I mean, I don't know what he really meant. I don't know if he meant if they don't make you say the Pledge of Allegiance before you eat dinner nail him to the wall. I'm not sure what he had a month. But it was one thing that I think said something was going on in his head which was an optimistic thing for me. And that was he had to be pondering how part of the population could be. So estatic and waving the little American flags all made in Taiwan, but raving a little mirror, you know and celebrating and America is on the move and it's morning and the other half won't even show up to vote. Hmm. (00:06:54) And I think that's what he was talking about. (00:06:57) So maybe that's even an optimistic note that he grew in another way. We never (00:07:02) anticipated now I (00:07:06) guess is I think about what do we do when the future and where do we go and why the challenges it's also almost Martin Luther King's Birthday, I think we ought to talk about that. I really didn't think we should have celebrated his birthday. I thought we should celebrate his assassination. It's a lot easier to explain as birth than it is assassination. And I think this country ought to have to deal with this assassination. Thank you very much. But I was in the minority everybody wanted to sell his birthday. So we're celebrating his birthday, but nevertheless. The one thing he said is the challenge for each generation is decide whether you're going to accept what is Or you're going to reach out for what ought to be that's the challenge and I guess I lay that out there to you the reflect on that as we go through this period are you going to accept what is and I think we know there are a lot of things that we don't particularly like right now. We're going to accept it brush it over. It's like painting over rust. Are we going to really try and work very hard to find out what ought to be (00:08:15) as I look (00:08:16) at. Where we ought to be going there is no question. We have to do something about the debt. seventy-five percent of the Savings in America goes to dealing with our debt that leaves only 25% for business for competitiveness for education for everything that is really a terrible debt equity ratio, and no one else that were competing with has that kind of ratio. And so we've got to start bringing that down long-term or we're in trouble. The question is then how do we do it? We saw all the gimmickry stuff the read my lips stuff and all that. I think there's a lot of things that we need to do and it's a perfect time for your generation to start framing this debate. I have been chairwoman of the burden-sharing panel on the house armed services committee. And what does it say? It says we in America are still deployed in the war today in 1989 as though it were 1945 the way were deployed today made sense in 1945. It makes no sense in (00:09:31) 1989. (00:09:34) Eisenhower said it. Yes, post World War Two we did something that no one on the planets ever done and it makes me very proud as an American to think we did it. I don't know how they got the political consensus to do it, but it makes your toes tingle and that is after going through a bloody terrible awful war that cost us lots of money and everybody wanted to end it and come home. We had leaders that said no. That will one thing we learned from World War one is that you couldn't just win the war and go home you would have another war that what we then had to do was borrow another 18 billion dollars, which was a lot of money in 1945 and rebuilt the countries that were killing our fathers husbands Sons Brothers. How are you switch the mindset of a people so that one week they're the enemy and next week you're rebuilding them. Amazing. No one's ever seen anything like it and we did it boy. Did we rebuild them? That's no big secret. But that's what we wanted. We wanted them to be strong economic allies and that's happened. And the idea was we had to be deployed all over Western Europe and in Asia and everywhere else in that period of time because they were on their knees and as they started to rebuild no one ever thought we were going to be there forever and ever amen. We didn't want an Empire which is why you be there forever. We wanted an alliance an alliance is very different than an Empire. So last year, we spent a hundred and sixty billion dollars according to the defense department. I think those things are low hundred and sixty billion dollars defending Western (00:11:35) Europe. (00:11:38) Their gross national product is bigger than ours and they have a hundred million more people than we (00:11:43) do. Why? (00:11:47) The average American last year spent twelve hundred dollars for defense of the western world. The average European spent 350 the average Canadian 200 and the average Japanese (00:12:00) 100 (00:12:02) now their taxes aren't lower. So what do they spend their tax money on? In those countries, they don't know what the words College tuition means. If you want to go to college, it's paid for. They pay you to go. They don't know what a daycare problem is. I mean, they don't know what health insurance premiums mean. They have national health insurance have a lot of things they spend their money on that and we spend our money on their defense. Now the problem with that as you think it through. Is that your Military Allies over here are your trading competitors over here? You may all be in an alliance militarily, but you're going head-to-head competition was so every dollar that they don't have to spend over here. They're in better shape over here. We don't have to be told that either. The other thing is is because we've been paying the tab. You know the thing about he who pays the Fiddler calls the tomb remember what Eisenhower said about beware the military industrial complex. Well, they've picked up that tune and they sing. The Russians are coming. The Russians are coming 24 hours a day and the rest of the world kind of looks at us and because well, I guess if they want to pay for it, why not? (00:13:22) Yeah, (00:13:23) and here they are. They got a terrible problem in 1989. The horns are falling off Gorbachev said they can't figure out who this great enemy is they started out by saying and it's true, you know, there are two things that you look at when you talk about a military threat. Number one you talked about what a person's intentions are, you know, we've never been worried about Canada's intentions vis-à-vis the US. So what are their intentions and number two you look at what are their (00:13:59) capabilities? (00:14:04) I never really believed Grenada had the capability of invading the us, but you never know. I mean, you should look at the capabilities, right? So intentions capabilities, so when Gorbachev suddenly says look the Japanese have redefined power in the world. They have redefined it saying power is not just military power economic power. They've become a major power in the world without an army a new thing and he says he wants to move his country into that position and he knows he can't do it with the system. He's got and the incredible lock hold that their military industrial complex has on him. I mean there are days when I think that for Generations the Russian military and our military meet some secret place and safe. What do you guys want? You know and they work it all out and then they come back. It's like how you think your kids get together and work out the Christmas list, you know, so they want of it but that's what's really going on. So he realized he had to start bringing it down. So when he starts saying our intentions or changing our intentions are changing our side kept saying Yeah, but the capabilities aren't the capabilities are so then he starts saying OK we'll change the capabilities. We're coming out of Afghanistan were coming out of Angola were coming out of all these spices and were unilaterally lowering our troops on the Warsaw Pact side, and we're going to bring down our chemical weapons stocks and our side still saying that's not enough. Well, so why don't we say okay you do that will bring ours down. If you bring your sound some more, you know, rather than keep it going. We tend to want to just fold our arms and say that's not enough. The rest of the world is saying don't you get it the windows open, you know go for it. See how far you can push it if he then says no one walks away. Okay put until you test it. You don't know. (00:16:11) So the (00:16:12) attitude is kind of well if the US wants to keep paying for all this stuff and they go on their merry way doing other things. Now, the other side is for this younger generation. There's some tremendous problems out there that the US should be leading on we should be weaning ourselves away more and more from the militaristic thing to some of the other real threats that are on the planet. (00:16:41) Slowing (00:16:41) population growth in places such as Bangladesh and people and places like that. Absolutely incredible problem reforestation an absolute incredible problem. And there's no great secret is to how you do it. You plant trees. I mean Johnny Appleseed do that, you know carpet-bomb trees, you know, stick them in everywhere just send them out there and do it six billion dollars this year would really reestablish the forest that we need to re-establish on this planet if we're going to do fight the greenhouse effect six billion dollars. that's less than the add-on that it cost us to stay in Germany last year because the dollar fell Hey, what kind of craziness is that? How about top soil protection? We desperately need the world working on top soil protection. If we're going to figure out how we feed each other and keep working Energy Efficiency energy Independence renewable energy. All those things have not been solved. You know, we went off on this tralala. Tralala. We're getting cheap oil again from the Persian Gulf. One very cheap. Actually, it costs you the taxpayer about $100 a barrel. If you figure out what the military Mission cost you to hold that open $100 a barrel and very cheap. If you put that same money into research on Energy Efficiency and Independence, you'd have something what do we have now Metals? I guess I don't know what we'll get out of this. How do you get third and third world countries and developing countries to start letting you work with these problems. I think you start working on their debt relief, they all desperately need that relief. And if we the large industrial countries said, we will start helping you with debt relief. If you start working on these things that are so essential you could put together a package like that. Let's talk about the World Bank. They point out that right now somewhere between 340 and 730 million people on this planet are malnourished. Not starving, but Mal nourished and will affect their development. They also say that between 13 and 18 million people will (00:19:16) starve. (00:19:19) And we have all these industrialized nations subsidizing like mad with surpluses. I mean that really doesn't make a lot of sense so you could couple debt relief and you could couple trying to take this hunger thing on and working in that way and really putting together some kind of a package and you know, the most amazing thing of all is all of it adds up to a whole lot less than what we're spending now. I mean the way we are spending money in defense should be a shock, you know about the toilet seats, you know about the screwdrivers, you know about the B1 bombers to keep flying and falling out of the air. Those things are costing us a half a billion (00:20:05) dollars for one. one and they don't work. (00:20:13) Now part of the reason they don't work and a third grader could tell you this. We don't make them when one place we make them in 218 congressional districts. It's become a public works project. It's become a jobs project. Well, that's not the efficient way to spend your money and use your money. The defense budget should never be thought of as jobs. It's the least efficient way to create jobs you want if your goal is to create jobs, that's not how you do it. Any other way you spend money in the budget. You create a whole lot more jobs than that one and not only that you end up taking the money out of your society and it all goes towards defense because that's where all the money is. So you don't have the money for Creative other kinds of new technology and things and so all of a sudden we wake up and find that it's the Japanese who are coming out with a new high-definition television and it's that, you know, the Germans that are coming out with the new whatever it is because they're putting their money there and ours is all going to bigger and better and new whatever it is that don't work because it's made in 218 districts and spread all over and by (00:21:25) Blah blah blah blah blah. (00:21:28) So I think it's very very important. This generation gets involved and gets out there and says, we aren't going to take it anymore in the 80s. We've all been treated like we were really lame brains. You know, what it was Americans can only take happy talk. You can't talk about the debt or reforestation or anything because that's gloom and doom. You know, it's morning in America all those wonderful bumper stickers. I heart this I heart that, you know rainbows unicorns that here we go. (00:22:02) now (00:22:09) I'm telling you that that is just not the way it is traditionally. The American voter has been able to be very very mature whether it was accepting the Marshall Plan whether it was entering world wars weather was coming out of depressions whether it was Eisenhower Eisenhower, don't forget the man had already served his country didn't particularly want to be president probably said some of the most profound things about the military industrial complex, which I think unfortunately have come true. (00:22:40) Also, don't forget (00:22:42) he was in office when Little Rock decided they weren't going to let blacks into schools. You can imagine what is political advisor set. It's a state issue stay out of it. You know, what did he say absolutely not I was commander enforced as Europe. We have blacks and whites. They all bleed the same color blood when they were killed and cried the same color tears when they were hurt and we're sending out the National (00:23:08) Guard (00:23:10) even he the man who wanted to play golf was not afraid to take his powerful. I don't know if we can get anybody to get their spines out of the cloak room in Washington and take on a tough issue anymore. When I had my children, there were some very prominent child psychiatrists. Who said this is how you deal with children. If a child comes to you in the toy store and says I want the bicycle you don't say no because then the child would not like you. You say the budget says no. The child has no idea who the budget is. The child now hates the budget. But he still likes you. Because you didn't say no the budget said no now think about it. Your government in the 80s has been the same kind of the budget says know who voted for the budget gramm-rudman says know who voted for gramm-rudman. I had to vote for the bill because we weren't allowed to amend it who voted for the rule that didn't lie it on mendut, you know, the commission said we had to close the base. Well who voted for the rule can be you know who voted for the commission the commission says we have to take the pay raise you begin to think. Well, what do you guys do? You know, I mean you just walk in like little at Tama Don's and commissions and budgets and gramm-rudman tell you what and you just have no control over any what do you decide? Well, we decide that next week will be National pickle week and we have decided that you know. Now you ought to be really mad. You really ought to be there isn't a person in this room that wouldn't be willing to take a stronger stand on something than that and we're not going to have this country ready for the next Century. If we don't get that kind of leadership back in there again get a little starch in people. Maybe I'll start carrying cans of spray starch that could be a whole new political movement. When you see a politician that's doing the normal thing pull out your spray cans and go at it. Um, I think there's a lot of other issues that definitely need to be dealt with the family issues. Never and there's no capital in the world where they talk more about family than Washington DC everybody loves family. Our families are in the worst shape of any. Industrialized country we don't have childcare available for people what has happened is in and order to be able to hold that American dream and the American dream hasn't changed. Everybody wants a home. They want cars. They want college for their kids and health care insurance that is now such an expensive package that you can't have it without both people working and when both people are working all day. You don't have a wife. I mean, my husband's always wanted a wife. I've always wanted a wife we never had (00:26:25) one. And that's how most people are living (00:26:36) today only eight percent of America's family still look like Leave It to Beaver. And yet there are these Notions in Washington that are amazing. I have colleagues honest to goodness. That's a to me. If we create quality childcare slots the few women who are still home will rush out and go to (00:26:56) work (00:26:57) and I say, why do you really think that every woman's great dream is to have a hundred hour a week job and home and away because they just are and men will never have a warm meal again in America and I think you don't understand women went out to work not because the feminist pushed him out, but the (00:27:16) economy (00:27:18) Got them out there and you've only made their life more stressful because they're worried about their children. They could it's the only place on the planet except for South Africa Burkina Faso and Sudan where you can be fired for having a baby, but great for United States South Africa Burkina, bissau and Sudan Still fire people for having children, huh? Criminal act can't have that. You look at our tax code and every one of you in here would do much better off raising thoroughbred horses or dogs than you would children. There's not a person who works for me. That's married. Would that wouldn't do better off under the tax code divorce. The marriage penalty is in there. I mean, that's crazy and yet remember we're pro-family. So we've really am equal pay for equal work. We're still talking about that for women as though it's a radical idea. When I first came to office it was a 59 cents to a dollar ratio. It's now up to 61 real progress. I mean, come on that's really silly if that isn't the basis of our foundation of equal pay. I don't know what it is. We've also got to find ways that we get more people into government that really reflect our society only 5% Of the people in Congress and the Senate are female. You know what? It was that same percentage in 1964. We haven't gained one in 1964. There were 25 women today. They're 25 women and between today in 1964 was lower same with minorities. We have just a we have two Asians terrific we have about twenty three blacks and we have a handful of Hispanics and we have very few young members very few young members. We really need to have a congress if it's going to be representative. It ought to represent real people not the Millionaire's of America or whatever it is. And I really represent real people so that you get the kind of legislation that starts to fit real people and and it's directed in ways that real people are thinking rather than the esoteric stuff that we've been dealing with. So, I think those are all challenges and I am terribly I go from campus to campus when I was your age of someone said to me when I was in Harvard Law School. You can work for the United States justice department. My toes Tangled. I was ready sign me up. I was ready to go anywhere whether it was the Civil Rights area and I was there of Mississippi Burning because I graduated in 64 from University of Harvard Law School or whether it was environmental or whether it was anything anything that was going on. I was excited about and I was ready to go. I walk out today to law schools and say look you guys we need you in the federal government and they look at me like this lady slipped on the ice and fell on her head, but that's alright. They don't want to come. They don't want to go they don't want to go into our Foreign Service. They don't want to go into EPA. Then I want to go for crying out loud. I come from Colorado. We need good people in the Park Service are the next thing we know they'll sell all the trees, you know, James White. You know and Gorsuch, I mean they did for the environment what Bonnie and Clyde did for banks. These are very very important things. They were our heritage and when you think the people had the vision to take a lot of land and put it in trust for all of us. So later on we would have Parks or do all the things that they did that's very exciting and somehow we now think a government that wants to deal with it and somehow we really have to get back to believing it can work and making it work not just believing but making it work because it did it did for so long the incredible thing about this government with very few scandals ever very few scandals ever among our federal sector. We've had more scandals in the last eight years than we had in the prior 200. I know I'm trouble we have a president riding into the sunset with the highest debt ever seen in American history more scandals than ever seen in American history and the highest (00:32:05) approval rating. (00:32:08) when I was studying history, I remember reading one of the great debates in the in the house are in the Senate and the US Senate and about 1840 and it was about whether or not we should have public education and all Senator Calhoun said it's a total waste of money total waste of money this public education if you Look at today's population certain percentage of the people go to the cock fights and waste their money and all that. He said you can educate them all and certain percentage. You're still going to go to the cockfights. I thought that was ridiculous today. I'm beginning to think you may have been right. And I never have we had a better education educated populace and yet somehow we've allowed people to suck us into 30-second ads and let visuals cancel verbal and you know all these things. So, how do we get it back? Well, we get it back if people your age move out there and start saying we're not going to take anymore. We're going to register we're going to go when I went to University of Minnesota. We knew what political activism was we had everybody's name on Apple it on a postcard and we had a broken down where they lived in Minnesota who the editors of their local newspapers were who their senators and who their representatives were and if they decided to play with us in the state legislature, we could generate about twenty thousand postcards out of there saying you can imagine the letters to the editor. I am a student at the University of Minnesota and I love it up here in our Senator Jones is trying to cut back the funding so I may not be able to go when an editor of a local paper gets about 50 of those letters. Senator Jones says, I don't know where they got the idea one for the funding. I was forward all the time. In fact, I'm one of the original co-sponsors in the bill to increase it, you know, you know We know those skills. Why have we pretended like we forgotten them? (00:34:07) Why have we pretended like we forgotten? (00:34:11) This is why people want a representative government because basically you still have the power of the vote. I'm one of the people work very hard to get 18 year olds voting and the most disappointing thing to me is to see they don't I don't know what else you could do with them. You take away their student aid. They change the drinking law didn't seem to be anything you can do to him. You make them register for the draft. You start little Wars that they might get to fall into like, you know, and then down in Central America. You think are they there? Hello anybody home? You know, what do we do? And they have a vote they could really be out there making a difference instead. They seem to be in showrooms kicking the tires of BMWs, or they put Sony walkmans on their ears and said, I've dropped out. Well have dropped out when you're 18. I don't know how we're going to get you (00:35:08) back. (00:35:09) I tell you this some big things. We need to think about when my daughter came home from Princeton because it only cost me $20,000 a year and it's only 21 weeks of school and I keep thinking she could go to a spa for that but nevertheless. I said to her. What is the most important thing? You learn to Princeton? And she said to me nothing. The most important thing I have learned in my last few months was in Trenton. (00:35:38) I said Trenton (00:35:41) Princeton New Jersey is this little hermetically sealed bubble of what people want to think America is, you know, 20 miles down. The road is Trenton and she said every day I go to Trenton to tutor this kid. He's 11 years old and he shows up every day. He's more dedicated than I am to class. He shows up every day. He wants out so bad. She said he is taught me things. I never knew he's taught me 25 words for getting beat up. This is a child who if I walked into her room and said clean your room Jamie. She filed a thing up for child abuse, you know the idea of really being beat up of the physical fears and all the things that this child was over unbelievable and he wants to learn words that he's heard on television like unquestionably. What does it mean? How do we use it? Put it into the kid wants out. And who's going to get them and you know, how many kids there are like that. There are more of those kids than there are and Princeton but our TV image is everybody's living in Princeton. You know the state of Maryland just did a survey and found that they had more minority males in jail than in college. bad sign the city of Washington just did a survey found their minority students had higher SATs that had that had ever been scored before higher grades than had ever been scored before and fewer got we're going to college than had ever been (00:37:21) going before (00:37:23) and they interviewed them and said, why are you not going to college and they said they had single mothers they had other brothers and sisters. There was absolutely no way it was any kind of a possibility boy. That's a loss for every single one of us and we're not talking about that and you ought to have empathy for that. You know, we got to learn to walk in other people's moccasins to put it in the Native American terms, and I guess I close by saying another Native American thing where they always talk about the beautiful bird with a gorgeous feathers. Who was addicted to worms? And this absolutely beautiful bird was the Envy of everyone in nature, but he found someone that would trade him a worm for each feather. So he started trading feathers for worms. Well, he got a lot of worms, but he wasn't a very beautiful bird you can imagine this fat bald bird and there's some days when I really wonder and I really want to say to all of us. We got to be thinking about whether we're changing and trading are beautiful feathers for birds for worms because I don't think that's really where we want to go in the future. Thank you all very very much for being here. It's (00:38:45) wonderful to be back in, Minnesota. (00:38:59) His point is absolutely well taken that voter registration is very difficult. And you're right and that ought to make us mad too, you know, and how do you change the laws you change the laws at the state (00:39:13) legislature (00:39:13) and we ought to be able to go in and register and vote. It's very easy to do with computers today. They used to be worried about voter fraud hard to do today when you've got computers coupling everything together so I couldn't agree more and I think those laws are purposely put there to keep us from voting and Denver. They used to want to only open the voter thing from 925 downtown where it costs a minimum of three dollars and fifty cents for half an hour to park when who can go down and register. So we all ought to be very interested in making sure everybody has access not just rich people have access. Well, I think it why don't we have a present to vote for we have to get in the process in that early selection process. I think what happens is most of us don't phunk focus on it until the last week or two after Labor Day and by then you got two choices and everybody says, oh my God what happened? And we've just got to get out there much earlier. And take it on now. I know a lot of you when I say you want to go run for office to you're probably all saying. Well, where do you get the money and where to get the money? There's so many creative ideas in here that you can use without money that it's amazing. You got to have some money but one of the new guys I love this was running against someone who is spending Megabucks and Giga box and was on television all the time. So he had a little card made of himself on a television set and he asked people to hang it on their TV and it says you may wonder why I'm not on TV so much, you know and you turn it over and it says because I didn't take money from And listed all very powerful, you know, there's ways to get that back and you've got that kind of creativity do it. I hope that we see a new kind of presidential race, you know, when I looked at it I was so frustrated by the money the time and the fact you couldn't get the press to listen to what you said. They only wanted to treat me as the novelty of what I was I mean, you would finish the speech on the comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and the first question from the Press would be why are you running as a (00:41:46) woman? (00:41:50) Well, maybe there's some biology students here who can tell me that I had an option. I didn't know about but I never realized I had them what do you say to people with stupid questions and you know when you do that day after day after day or if you get elected will your husband have to put his tuxedo in the Smithsonian and he say that's all you got out of my speech. I mean my favorite was I got introduced one time and this is the day I said, oh, I always buy a state party chairman. He said I would Vote for This Woman for president. I like this. I'm not against having a Woman for president, but I won't vote for her for president because I don't want a man for First (00:42:35) Lady. (00:42:40) Okay, you're up. I mean, what do you say and you begin to think how do we get people Beyond this kind of nonsense? I think we can work on it and I think we got to work on it and I get beat up for going out and saying these kind of things but it's time we say enough. These are like the stupid pet tricks on David Letterman. Yeah. So, let's see what (00:43:02) happens. (00:43:06) Well II don't think legalizing drugs is the way you bring them in. I think what we have not done if you look at the United States, we've done an excellent job in educating people why they should wear seat belts. We've done an excellent job at teaching people why they should not smoke we need to do a much better job on the abuse of alcohol and drugs and basically what we've tended to do with people on drugs in particular is if you do this, you might get in trouble with the law and they say, oh, yeah. Really? They don't really understand. They're turning their body into a chemical waste dump. If you turn it around and say how many here would like to turn your body into a chemical waste dump raise your hand. What a great idea. You know, you're not hurting me if you turn your body into a chemical waste dump. Why do you think you're coming at me? If you turn your body into a chemical waste them? I don't know. But I think that's really the tact we've got to go on is to explain people that this really doesn't make any sense. And of course Washington would always love to find something more to tax. So that may be why they would move to legalize drugs good we can tax it then but basically, I mean that's what we've done with alcohol and tobacco but basically it's very short-sighted because you may tax it and you may get revenue from it, but you get tremendous health problems from it to that you end up paying for later on and you also get all sorts of society problems that you're also paying for. So it's not a good source of Revenue enhancement, which is the new word so I don't really think that works. The Roe versus Wade decision I think is in big trouble. They've made it very clear that they want to roll back the Supreme Court decision. I find that very troubling. I found this week very troubling surgeongeneral Coupe has been a very interesting man who's grown in his office and his his turnaround on AIDS was positively amazing but as you know this week, he came out with a new report and he said there was absolutely nothing wrong with this report which was by his people which was very scientific, but he refused to release it because he didn't like the (00:45:38) result. (00:45:41) And it had to do with women in abortions and you know, I am very troubled as to how people don't seem to get the idea that we're not talking about one life. You're talking about one life. It's easy you're talking about two and you really want the Supreme Court to decide which life goes every single time. No matter what no matter what the circumstances are anything else and I think we're about there. I think we're about there. So we'll see maybe once people lose something they begin to understand how important it was, but I hate to think we got to lose rights before we understand how critical (00:46:18) their Watch Jack him (00:46:24) Jack Kemp (00:46:25) talks compassion. It just flows, right (00:46:30) and he's part of the jaw khakhra see and you know. There are two ruling classes in America, you know, we're technology junkies which is why I think we love military stuff, you know stealth bombers and we you know, we have jaw khakhra see but basically what Jack Kemp tends to do. And the Enterprise Zone we call it in Colorado the Frozen Taco syndrome. Oh, here's a little guy at all. I know Spanish here. We'll put in a frozen Taco Factory. Now, let's give the corporation that does it, you know, no taxes. No this, you know subsidized interest the whole but the corporation does real well. And the neighborhood gets minimum wage jobs. So Corporation makes a bigger profit for being in the neighborhood, but the neighborhood doesn't really have a way out for people. So you want to make sure that what he proposes is as good for the people he's proposing a for as it is for the contractors and the builders and the you know, the corporations and the so often it's a way to get a meat hook into the till or into the tax code (00:47:47) for (00:47:47) people who really have about as much compassion. (00:47:53) Well, I Won't (00:47:54) defame Anyone But you know you I think you know what I'm saying, so I would say watch him very closely because it always sounds good. But the Enterprise Zone did not work very well in Britain and it hasn't worked particularly. Well here What we really want is a way for people to go ahead affirmative action is a great example. One of the reasons that affirmative action did much better for women than it did for minorities is women were inside working. Minorities were outside working as janitors are on the loading dock. There was no career ladder there. So as we reflect back and look at affirmative action and say what do we learn from that before you can make sure that people progress up you got to get them in and if you're just giving them a bunch of dead end jobs, they don't I mean, so what that's not where we want to go. Well the 97% re-election rate. I think reflects what we were talking about up here and how hard it is to register to vote the turn off Factor. Let me tell you if you don't remember another thing from today. Let me tell you one of the great secrets of the Congress. If somebody writes me very angry about my position on (00:49:14) anything. (00:49:17) The smartest thing to do politically is not answering. If they agree with me, of course answer them because you want to nurture room send them calendars and them autographed pictures, you know, okay, and they become your great friend who agrees with you on whatever but if they don't agree with you in some don't answer. Then if they call and want to come meet with you don't meet with them and then if they write you again don't answer or send him some in name printed card saying thank you very much for your position on if it ever comes up. I'll try and remember sincerely. (00:49:58) Now why (00:49:59) because you know what you're doing to that person. We have learned in politics. You've turned that person off. And instead of that person getting involved in politics and taking you on they drop out and that's exactly what you want to do. The easiest way to win a sporting matches have the other team not show up. The easiest way to win election is not have the opposition come to the (00:50:22) polls (00:50:24) and that is what's happening. So, I mean people turning off is exactly what folks want you to do. And I have people sit with them. What do you do? You say look I ran against an incumbent on that basis. I was very upset about the Vietnam War. I would write this guy and say you're my congressman. I want to talk to you about the Vietnam War hits. I don't have any time but he would send me calendars. He sent me a baby book. I mean, I didn't elect him to raise my baby. I'm go to someone else. I never thought Congress knew a lot about that. He sent me how to control my crabgrass. He sent me an agricultural yearbook. I lived in downtown Denver. I mean, I don't want any I wanted to talk to him about the war. I got an autographed picture of him. I didn't care about that. So what did I started writing letters to the editor saying, excuse me, but for 18 months, I am trying to talk to this guy about the war. Now you would think he could work a little time and then you can have a press conference and say would you look at this crap? I've gotten from him. It's all paid for by the taxpayer me and I don't want any of it. Yeah, II know what day it is. I have a pediatrician, you know, I don't care about crabgrass let a thousand crab grass blades grow or whatever. What is it? And you know, it really struck a chord and it turned it around. And that's what's happening. It's not only the Congress comes back. George Bush is about he's an incumbent for heaven's sakes. He was there for eight years doing the same thing, but he's back. So it's like once you get your nose Under the Tent if you know these little tricks now, if you know what the trick is and you're all leaders get out there for heaven sakes tell people what the trick is and tell him this is America and you don't have to take it and when you start talking that way people start saying, oh, yeah that happened to me. I tried to get in and they wouldn't see him. We had a group of nuns who have been trying to see one of our Senators forever and they were so nice and say, you know, we've been back here for six times and he'll never see it. I said go home and have a press conference. Hold up a picture of him and said has anyone in Denver seen this man, you know, why not we've been there and we can't see him and we're here on weekends. Does anyone know where he may be missing? Yeah, we're worried. He's I said you can have fun with this we get so bloody series. We have fun a little Guerrilla theater is marvelous and look merican people are dying for it. I always feel that in politics. We should all take the position very seriously, but not ourselves Unfortunately. They reverse it. They take themselves very seriously and their positions and not too seriously. It's just whatever. If you know they take themselves that Bloody seriously, you know, they go ballistic if you do anything that goes at them personally. Okay, and you also know that their positions are not that well thought-out take that little kernel and go out here and turn it around. We only got 11 years so the 21st century and we really don't want this country not carrying on the great mantle it had it can it. Can you have a terrific Heritage and now let's go out and build a terrific future. Thank you very much.

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