On this Sportfolio program, Greg Cylkowski, local Greg Cylkowski, discusses the many aspects of the psychology of sports. Cylkowski also answers listener questions.
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Hi, this is JG Preston or what's left after? I left a man that will hurt Edina game last night that kind of took it out of me. Anyway, this is portfolio. I think you'll agree that success in sports is not just a product of physical ability some of its in your mind to the extent that it is perhaps Our Guest this afternoon can help us understand how mental ability relates to sports performance with me. Today is Greg silkowski at Twin Cities man is a practitioner in the field of sport psychology and our topic is the mental side of sports. You have a question for Greg sulkowski. You can give us a call at 227-6000 to 276 thousand the phone number to call here on sportfolio.Don't play with the microphone Greg will get this out of the way. I look terrible feel terrible been watching hockey for the last 2 days. Why do people watch hockey to you watch all the games? Right and you go to bed when it's over which is a very smart idea game. Over at 12:30 that I go to bed know. I was there I went down and talked to the coaches. I came back here to prepare my my morning radio reports next thing. I know what time to get up. I haven't gone to sleep yet. I was just there was a time where it's in here wearing the same clothes. I wore when I left the house at 5 yesterday morning come to work yesterday. I've been home since hello Joanne. I'm sorry. I'm not home. I'll be home in a little while before we get this cathartic for me to do this because now we can get the rest of the hour and face. The mental side is a mental side of anything right now is a real trial but the mental side of sports.And Twin Cities sports sports psychologist, Greg Stokowski, first one turn Greg into a traffic reporter cuz you were driving to get here Greg. How do you find the roads? Well, they're deceiving Explorer. Well, it's a slippery than I thought I was that one master parking near near the afternoon, but we'll see to 276 thousand is our phone number with Craig zolkowski here on ksjn 1330 gregwood you to find sports psychology. I mean, why would why is it that when we consider separate from from anything else? What's what's what's special about applying at the sports. Number one areas of psychology is educational that is clear. Called in the sport psychology, which comes out of motor development are physical education and it's very geared to combining two physical mental aspects of sport to sport performance sport psychology.People say I would find yourself as I said, well, I'm sports performance at Athleta Consular because so many things that deal that number one are in psychological and secondly everybody has the misconception that the cycle out. Everything psychological is problem orientated or more the negative side, intimidating type word. So when we start talking performance enhancement, it has such a much better ring to a deep are more willing to adapt to some of the things we're doing the telephones and see what kind of questions to 276 thousand Our Guest is Greg sulkowski. Ron's portfolio will go to Minneapolis. Hello Bill. Hello. My question is I heard the claim made on television a couple of nights ago that if you take a group of people and you have them practicing shooting baskets, and then you had to take another group of people and have them imagining that they're shooting baskets or free throws sayAnd you take a control group and you don't do anything with him that the people were imagining are imagining that they shoot baskets do as well as people who are actually practicing shooting better. How is that possible minute they do as well. Once you actually put them in a situation where they're shooting. Yeah. I know the show you're talkin about if they running about 10 times a week and said it's local channel 23, but it to buy you so fast just like the Olympics in the sky like those who do and those who don't then was a battle of the Brians to a sport psychology vs. Not and you know it give the media anything like that and turn it around the same day like what you saw number one physical practice alone or mental practice alone is not as effective as a combination of the two.What they were trying to show you there. Is that the power of the Mind number one, but secondly what they should have told you is that either one separately is not as powerful the Two Notch. Let's talk about why is mental imagery and visualization so so strong it's kind of like modeling so to speak if you ever played tennis and watch maybe US Open the case maybe and then you go play tennis or you watch the Masters in golf and go out and golf afterwards. He always would probably tell me that you know what I played a lot better or more consistent and why is that well, cuz your your modeling perfect skills as being like a blueprint as you might have heard on that show on your mind you try to play like Lindell, but the more important part of it is you're watching good skills. Good technique good form. That's the real key to the whole aspect and why is it whenever one your brain takes it it's kind of a blueprint the number to when you start modeling it.Visualizing you skills when you think about a stroke or a golf swing your brain actually sends electrical impulses to those muscles that are performing those particular type skills. Therefore if you envision yourself doing poorly or Envision a skill in correctly. It's a form of incorrect practice and much like physical practice when you've got your your muscles in the motor skills over learn to a point of doing the skill incorrectly. You're reinforcing a poor skill there. So what we're trying to say here is the mine does even without the physical activity is getting a form of physical practice by sending electrical stimulation to those particular muscles on your hand. Definitely a rain delay or whether you haven't played for a long time. That's what we do live visualization and to go EvaFurther into this you might have heard of golfers for instance homemade been laid up in the hospital for a long. Of time Ben Hogan did this and 58th Ave believed at the US Open. He was in an auto accident was laid up for 6 months, but he he played in his mind every stroke of every hole how he was going to do it at the Masters came out of the hospital and shot. One of those scores every shot at the Masters Reddit. This gentleman had fantastic skills, but he wasn't doing any physical practice in between was in the hospital the other example, you hear so much of his prisoners from Vietnam who did the same thing either play golf in her mine did not have guitars but simulated the Motions of guitar strings are of a piano and came back from Vietnam and could play piano proficiency your guitar or golf as if they've never left the sport and that is again an example of where the mind is so powerful.We definitely do you couldn't be successful. If you just played 18 your mind everyday know what I mean. Again, it's like any practice and practice better than no practice in a sentence. You could sit here every day in your mind and play a round of golf and you can come out this spring and be better than you would be had you had no mental or physical practice. Okay. So, you know, there is some truth to this but the most effective productive level performance can be combining mental with physical practice. So you really can't substitute one without the other even though I used the example of the Vietnam and all those examples. Yes, they could play the piano. Yes, they could but but not at a level proficiency had to combine the two.Thank you very much. I bet you that was nicely confusing story there. You have to break things down to the simplest form. So people can understand him and sometimes to me to throw him out so fast you really are nuts hard to grasp. It really is. Thanks for call Bill. I appreciate it to 276 thousand is our phone number here on sportfolio. Greg silkowski is our guest to the field of sport psychology to 276 thousand and MJG, press 2. Now that I'm real proud of it being the fact today. That's all right. I'm waking up. Is he our goes on but I'm not going to go. There's no way of the world going to academic programs are available in sports psychologist visit become College curriculum and programs around the country now or maybe five years ago there about 20 and maybe 15 10 years ago there maybe 5 to 10.Guess what you have to do again. It is break that down, you know, there's a big debate between sports psychology and Clinical Psychology and what the constitute a psychologist now and whatnot. Because Clinical Psychology comes out of the apartment psychology your educational people come out of college education sports psychology is coming up motor development some of the most Providence schools for High V University of Illinois or right and Barnes has been these are practitioner type warranted where I profess to be Florida state has an excellent program Penn State UCLA have very good programs. But there's more a research Theory base type programs University of Minnesota offers something in this area, but it's not the way it is. You don't problem as a program with some of the other schools University of Wisconsin-Madison is an excellent program exceptionally research and Theory based. Therefore if you want to do what I'm doing is a practitioner very application orientated. They tell you right offThis is not the program to get involved in a real a real sad part of it. All is that so many people that you go to University Minnesota take a psychology of motivation cars and and come out of there and be able to deal with your team more effectively and you're going to come out of course like that and say g. I, I don't know much more than what I had to go into this and that's true because the practitioner side most of my experience 90% of it. I might knowledge came from seminars clinics understudying from some of the top people in the country and just really working in the trenches of the field and friends since like the gentleman that called us in about the show. He saw this is not a theory or are in a research type program just fell into this all on his own. So, you know, there's a lot of gaps to be bridged yet in the field of sport psychology. We have found out that for maybe the last two or three decades one reason why Eastern European nation the Soviet Bloc Nation so far have done exceptionally, well is that they are so far.That's when it comes to sports psychology or let's just say the mental side of development of Athletics. And that's where we say. What time is money we got was sponsorship. We got was facilities and we still find out we're behind but they are much further ahead in this particular area. In fact, the United States now has hired a full-time sport psychologist with the Colorado Springs that they're being attributed to the Eastern Bloc countries. Are they primarily just more sophisticated usages of techniques like Imaging or is it all in control of everything everything? Will it be paying controlled and that's where I go back and say I like the worst Sports. I called you like sports performance because there are advance and biomechanics which if you still was biomechanics sounds kind of timid 8 biomechanics is like when you watched Rocky 3 or believe, it's Rocky 4 and we show him theFashion training we saw this high-tech computerized equipment that is going to be the trend of the future when it comes to training athletes is, you know measuring breaking down the angulation and range of emotions are breaking down the skill and monitoring them to see exactly what we're doing. You're one of the best tools we have for performance enhancement videotaping the very best and how often do we video tape or so every athlete I work with you're going to have some Olympic type people next week and ask them that same question you videotape a lot like I look at you like well, yeah, we kind of once in awhile best 2 in the world. That's a form of biomechanical break down. So that's where the Soviet in Eastern Bloc nations are are really far ahead in the training the mental Side sports medicine weather. Rehabilitate injuries. They find out where they can totally rehabilitate a broken leg and less than three weeks. Sometimes two weeks broken leg broken leg. Can you believe that?You know electrical stimulation for the healing process go through a lot of mind control so on and so forth and you know, we see people now they're delivering babies with the syrians without anesthesia. We're seeing people that do yoga more and more and receive all this must be physical and basically 90% of it is all mental and can be learned in developed definitely but it's a discipline, you know, so many people as it was knossos or let's do some of these skills. I say, well, you know, I always back up first and say what kind of athlete am I dealing with or better yet? What kind of person am I dealing with? Everybody approaches me at let's say a hockey player since we were talking hockey, you know, I'm choking as a goalie, or I'm not focusing whatever the case maybe help me out.My first question is well, let's start talking about your social life Family Life work light athletic type development and what will an individual who becomes involved in athletics who now takes up the school Pirates which is being a goalie and doing those particular movement. Most people 90% of problems are not at the athletic level. It's in their athletic skills or Anorith agency skills, but in her training and their process to thinking this more or even back as an individual, how are we emotionally controlled? You know, how far am I work disciplines? Are I am I have it since you know, how am I able to stay and maintain to a program? So people are weakened those particular areas and then they say well, come on now help me out. I say well, you don't have the discipline to learn how to visualize and make it effectively lets us do something to get you some good Basics and Foundation First talking about sports psychology with Greg sulkowski here on ksjn.Program is portfolio on JG Preston 20 minutes after 12. Noon doesn't look like ringgit to much more snow today, but be careful can be a little slippery out there from where he's been blowing and kind of froze over here in the morning hours to 276 thousands are phone number if you'd like to talk to Greg Stokowski 2276 thousand Greg you brought up hypnosis a minute ago. And I think I think the whole area of hypnos is people's imagination that begin with this cuz it kind of sounds kind of mysterious and exotic and also with the with Harvey Mizell getting a lot of publicity here in town for work. He's done with with various athletes over the years. I think it's got kind of an aura in people's minds. What's a purpose of hypnosis when you're when you're developing mental development of an athlete or anybody else for that matter, I guess but but what do you do under hypnotism that makes that makes it you know some more effective on the first thing when people hear me speak rather be a show like this or in public. Yes all yeah. We know what you do you do hypnosis it didn't you work a Rod Carew.That's Harvey and Harvey Mizell who is strictly hip hypnotist will be speaking at our event that's coming up. It hard and I are very good friends, but we have two completely different approaches to dealing with sports enhancement uses what they call the quick Fixx cuz the old American public is very results-oriented and we want to do it now. So they go somewhere like Harvey and use hypnosis, but that's only one of maybe a hundred tools were utilizing here. It's not effective for everybody and it's not a Band-Aid for all situations and unfortunately lot of people have gone to hip hypnotist and come back and say well that didn't work. I say, well number one might have been very good for you as an individual and secondly, it's probably not the process we should have used to the deal with weather deficiency or what you want to accomplish in your sport many times when I use hypnosis.I guess like the word psychology has kind of negative connotation and or like you said are up to it and and we'll utilize Progressive relaxation or mental imagery skills and and asked me to come back and say you know, somebody told me that we did hypnosis I said, well, yeah that I guess you can call it that and why do I do it that way? Because if I say we're going to do hypnosis, they start thinking a Twilight Zone Theme is lazy and I don't involve what hypnosis it's like educating sports psychology. I do so much education out there trying to explain to people what is and what isn't hypnosis is nothing more than an altered state or more relaxed State of Mind the things that we see on TV with your calls stage hypnotism where people going to float near Dad that's totally different from what we're trying to accomplish Francis, you know, not at all. In fact that anybody has been in hypnosis is just more you talk about the alpha beta waves and so for just a lure brainwaveIt's very more much more in tune to what's happening. Basically what they did with Rod Carew is dead. Rod had very good elongated time means he could slow the ball down and anybody who could slow the ball down obviously could hit the ball better. I would hypnosis did for him was give him a better focus and and a real Vision to the boss of he had some excellent skills to begin with and then secondly with the hypnosis, he could focus even better Troon out distractions, whatever the case maybe and an increase is hitting ability anybody in hypnosis will always know what is going on always or what happens if they don't know what's going on cuz they used to go to sleep cuz you seem so relaxed and you have to understand is why can somebody go on her surgery without anesthesia so far? Well, that's cuz they can lower the brain waves that their pain threshold lower the heart rate lower the blood flow get it down very very rude to a relaxed. In fact, I was to a comatose state level.What you called Zeta so hypnosis is very very simple. And the goal is to everybody to do a self hypnosis or self-awareness and basically what it does again. It just makes you more in tune and focus to what you doing. What it be to stop smoking will be eating or the be focusing on the pockets are Goldie. It's focusing and awareness just another altered state but now make the connection for me friends with baseball. I mean, what's your what's your learning or thinking about in a very relaxed State how it translates been to a what's basically a reflex action. Something is coming 90 miles an hour in write your face. Well, remember I mentioned this statement to you about elongated time most athletes you say in practice things, you know, I'm performing better things are more relaxed. I'm doing so well, but in a competition things are happy so much faster. In fact, if you talk to athletes when they make mistakes,Make the first thing is panic which means a heart rate things up your brain waves go faster and what may seem like a second-and-a-half now seems like three-quarters of a second. So it's happening faster and if things happen faster pneumonia not accustomed to performing at things that fast but secondly, you cannot refuse you can react as well either. So what was hypnosis doing or what is a q word to create a where does us use that little better? What does it start tuning things out to create a login times to send me a second and a half if feels like we're in slow motion may be going to 2 and 1/2 seconds. And of course if we slow things down we're going to perform much more proficiently again. Another aspect is if you're standing on the mound and you're listening to the Empire y'all in your your mother in the stands of the crowd and the players that you want to be able to focus and tune all those things out and ask for hypnosis and then visualize, you know, I have to throw the best crew Ball by life here. Well, let's go throughChannel 12 steps as a curveball. Let's practice it in our minds again as though we practice and throw in the past three four times before we deliver. So it has kind of a dual effect that creates you get to relax. It's rather distractions, but also performance enhancement to create the skill that we need to do also to we have what we call a post-hypnotic suggestion, which means every time I see a certain words your friends is calm and we use calm and party hypnotic trance everytime. We say that word. You can create the same simulation the same feelings as though when you're in your hypnotic trance questions for Greg Stokowski about the area of sports psychology here on sportfolio MJG Preston. Our phone number is 227-6082 Minneapolis High bill because of your comments about the sports industry. Thank you. I think that meansPandora Eastern Eastern block their the engage in more Sports than we do and it seems like we're does inundated over here with with being competitive in its beat into our heads. And yeah, I'm telling you if I was a great athlete and Tony about it. Only real real good. Well, if I can't be a good idea. Seems like the vast majority of Americans, you know as much as we admire the athletes and their dexterity and and all of that sort of stuff in the position to be in couch potatoes and I'm registered up at this reading about the grades that are the experts are the odds of the great in the same as so what the hell do I do? If I'm just basically you're nobody's and I feel now I've got nothing to sayYou said everything that I was going to say, so now what do you want me to but that's exactly it on they had our problem United States were very result orientated society and we have to be more process-oriented which is what you mention about the eastern Europeans in the Russians their process over result will result which means we don't care how we win just so we win it's just like hypnosis. Why is that were popular working with me? That's a quick fix to do it now to win tomorrow morning and we've got to go back to developing a total program that worried about the Olympic 6 months before it but start thinking about it when the kids are six or seven get them to enjoy sport as it's for instance. The very basic notion to sport is play Freeplay where kids just you know, do their own thing they're creative. So on and so forth in from play we go to game where we put those structure little rules toIt's the one so far and then as we get a little bit more proficient to go to Next Level Sport and finally to the professional level, which is work because it is work. You know you talked about a lot of hockey players is nothing like what I used to be a kid. So we going this real transitional process that that's really the model i7 say we should cuz we don't and we get very result-oriented a were very competitive were very upset cuz we didn't want a lot of metals Granite. We only have one lose rank in the whole United States, but we're very upset that we haven't won a lot Metals their we're down on our Olympic hockey team everything you say is true. And that's why we have the problems in sports we do today. You should go to the Civic Center watch when some of these teams lose you would think it was life or death out there and I agree. I can't agree with you more. We have to be out there for the enjoyment of it more than anything else the enjoyment. Secondly, there's a process we have to go through a learning the skills the fundamentals the last part is there wasAlter the winning and that will come when you have a strong bases for the for what they were talking about here 29 minutes after 12 here on portfolio on ksjn $13 standing by and I'll give you the phone number for future reference. As soon as we get one to drop off you can call in to 276 thousand Our Guest is Greg silkowski Twin Cities, man who practices will come back with Greg and get some more of your questions in just a second. Good afternoon. This is Mark ice did reminding you the week in review comes up at 1 here on ksjn 1330 this way politics dominated our national news on a program this week. We'll take a look at this week's primary results and look ahead to the campaign's after super Tuesday locally University of Minnesota president can Keller's troubles with both of Regents and the state legislature seem to intensify. This week will report on that story as well and also this afternoon a report from Ethiopia on the famine that many relief agencies fear will return to that Nation.I'm a pothole situation in the Twin Cities. That's all in the week in review this afternoon from 1 to 3 here on ksjn 1330. He's only got two hours and he's going to talk about the pothole situation. I don't think you can do it justice in 2 hours a couple questions soup and a comment. This is fascinating work of milk nature action with American athletes. Vaguely and it was so much work out there at and it comes across me and you know vaguely I do wish you the teaching chaos and Milton H Erikson, he was a psychiatrist and you can look up the one where you work with athletes. It's just fascinating to coach driving for high school students. Coaching diving Midwest Sports conference in a few weeks. That's a tough one. There's a lot of aspects that going to diving before we get into the pool and he say what does that mean? That means we're looking for a certain type of individual that's very individual sport orientated somebody who's able to deal with loud with the mental processes that we talked about. Those are the people that do very well in diving now once we get into the pool type Arena, which what you want to know about a lot of visualization is got to come for us here. In other words. I say tuna 2 and 1/2 whatever is 12 elements to it. When I talk to a diversity don't talk me through the process number one, what's going to happen or what you going to do secondly walk me through it and thirdly then we'll go into the performance parts. In other words. I don't like athletes who can just do it because they're very talented and you say well, how did you do that? I don't know. I just did it. Those are the people they're going to have the little problems in the breakdowns in her performance somewhere down the road or they have little over learned habits will never get rid of so, can we go back to fundamentals? I have my divers each and every one of them not only understand what they're doing. But break. All the elements be able to visualize these in their mind and also do a lot of what I call a dried land type practice sessions with them to the part where they get over learn the process and think it through as much as possible now one problem with a lot of divers. Repeat Performance or pressure? I'll give you a cute story back at 80 when the we had the Olympics in in Russian. We were not a part of them in a rush into everything out to a science. So we think now they built this beautiful diving area with a warming house. But what they forgot was that their five divers when they had to get together before they died. They want to just room about 30 or 40 other people in the warming house from the other countries and they waited till they died. Unfortunately, these people very introverted type individuals and inverted type individual had a very will have a hard time mentally getting ready or going to a visualization whatever the case may be an extroverted type environment with 30-40 people Jam in a little room consequently this really hurt their performance. So again, Italy have to almost be a psychologist or at least individually train and mentally prepare each and every person cuz he even a small key. It's like that you can take people off the ridge. I work very much in the simulation of competition things that are happening out there all the time and this is something that you need to do when I called Dryland or create a lot of situations must like the competitive Arena take some more phone calls for Greg silkowski here on sportfolio 227 6000r phone number on ksjn 1330 in St. Paul. Hello Bruce next door, I guess I'm talking to the same the same theme the basic building blocks psychomotor skills have basic building blocks. You can't really skip one and a hand eye coordination or something to go on to the next door must be some basic building blocks and mental preparation and I'm wondering specifically about I'll preparation outside the sports you talked about Landon and I mental review and mental preparation with specific guy sports activities involved are there activities outside sports that would contribute to the ability to Image students have a tough time, you know visualizing and I'm interested in things outside of a sports that may contribute to the ability to to mental image and prepare mentally. Well, my big thing is called lifestyle and early going to show I mention about what athlete to come to me at the skill level or to sport leveled say I'm choking her. I don't seem to stimulate my practices in competitions by the case maybe and I start talking or what they doing their daily lives. And so forth. The model again that I use is that we have a lot of good individuals are athletes. So to speak who become good basketball players it later want to become good performers and that's kind of my building block process that we have to be sound 24 hours a day if we're going to be sound on the card for 2 hours. You just don't turn it on and turn it off. So when I work with kids and talking about pressuring You having a problem in critical situations on when you're pitching is it? Okay, how are you when you take tests in schools? How are you? When you interact in an argument with your girlfriend or what your parents? How are you when you go to one of your fearful situations like going to the dentist whatever the case maybe and consequently, I will see a pattern that develops acrossed all of them. A lot of people when they talk about dealing with anxiety your mind just like we talked earlier about mental practice vs. Physical doesn't always know the difference between the two same thing with anxiety or pressure or fears your mind doesn't tell yourself while you know, this is baseball but this is the dentist and this is arguing my wife and they're all different and we all have opportunities to work on these things on a daily basis there for somebody that's not stable or not. Very emotionally in good control at work. That's the person that's going to that's going to turn me down somewhere on the basketball card. I talked about kids allowed with dress how they look how they shake and how they look mini II how they turn in your homework assigned whatever the case may be in figure skaters. I always look at how their homework assignments are and what the room looks like in a locker figure skaters more so than other athletes for this is one example would figure skating. Why is that because figure skating is a lot of attention to detail, they have terrific attention to detail there for the lifestyles of God have a lot of detail involved in it. So it look at their homework. I see how much detail is there a look at the room do they do things in sequential order of putting clothes away here and there and everywhere if they're very careless type people there knew very careless type things on the ring and that's what with the gentleman said earlier about how competitive result orientated we are are figure skaters in the United States are fantastic freestylers cuz we're Renegades and we just want to do the the creative the the physical ability type things where we do poorly in Skating is in the figures with Stakes normous amount of discipline. You want the carving shape things on the ice that way and that's where the attention to detail has to be even even stronger. So many times I tell kids about this is what I got to do with the way I dress or the way I walk it. So well, I picked on the Vikings. I called this year. I said, you know, I saw I watch the guy in the field at his shirttails hanging out his socks Every Witch Way I said, you know any kind of plays that way he's got phenomenal ability and you makes big plays daddy gives up. So many easy ones are give them right back out of these are the kind of people to have the mental breakdown the people to have that kind of nonchalant looseness about them and they get you in trouble somewhere. So this gentleman saying, well, you know, where are the basic blocks? I get it goes to individual athlete and finally diver. You know screen people that have those traits prior to even the skill level, you know, and then nurture the skills based on the fact that they have these these particular traits that are going to help them once achieved the sports Gill level. I think our system being product or fraud her or goal oriented and it was always going to lose out because we're going to develop the people that have the success or going to come and try and develop the mental after this where you know, maybe there's this is not going to be able to be achieved where is taking someone who has those abilities or Hazard and it was typed psychic type the figure skater know and then bring the Skil fin to that individual, you know, perhaps that's where the right again in performance. It isn't just physical isn't just metal mechanical. It its nutritional. It's also the intangibles of want desire. I talked about the two most important things of athletic people say what's wrong with it sports in America. I said today kids are faster to Stronger. God knows the better equipped. How the training is so much more advanced. I separate the two most important aspects are what we heard at the mall Sonesta Zaire and discipline, you know what the ability to want the passion for it now and we look at the Eastern Bloc or Soviet Union in general to tell you one thing. Yes, you know, I was probably programmed to do this. Yes, I should have done that. But I had to do it. It wasn't a choice. Now. We have something over here that they don't have and that's the ability to want the ability to do whatever we want to do the intangible of passion if we can read Kindle that and all of our athletes that's going to make up for a heck of a lot. I think my old high school Creed and prove that in the hockey tournament here is a team that just scratches and Claws that really doesn't have a lot of Talent OR ability and I like to look for scratches and Claude. I'll take a scratch on a clock or any day over a talented type individual and do you even go a step further here? Bruce Jenner after one decathlon the Olympics that came up to my so you know how they feel to be the world's greatest athlete Bruce as well. I'm not the world's greatest athlete it all said you had a desk somewhere or maybe behind a radio station like this. He's probably running half-assed around a track right now or I'll probably just doesn't really carries. I do know I'm not the world's greatest athlete but I want it more than anybody else in the world and ask Dan intangible. Like you say woof. You aren't we buy? Yes, we're behind in a lot of ways but yet we have if we can find it was right individuals with a real passion for the game that to me is more than anything else, to make your my problem with the way people handle the Olympics is it I mean as far as I'm concerned the object of the Olympics has not to see which country has the athletes to earn the most medals is a chance to see athletes were spectacularly talented at what they do do it extremely well in in what becomes a very difficult situation because of the visibility. I mean the pressure for lack of a better word can be pretty high and see how people handle it. I mean we start talking about kind of mentally genetically engineering for the good of our country to put the right athletes in the right sport. I prefer to look at it for the athletes sake for his or her sake maybe that purse. Wants to really in you know, if we can watch to excel at something wants to have a chance to be good at something. It's good for that person to maybe find out from his or her personal habits and inclinations lifestyle. Whatever Define activity is best suited for that person unless I do it for the sake of the you have to say for the sake of a Bob Jones that's what happened with people retired early because they're being push push push push and they had such phenomenal ability that what their lack of passion and desire they still could do it, right you have to understand something that some people despite everything else just cuz they have such an abundance of god-given talents that they're going to win. Anyway, that's what happened last Soviet athletes because of the training and their genetics answer ticket much better way of life over there that gets in a whole bunch of socio-political. It's 17 minutes before he runs portfolio. I'm here on ksgn. Colleges Craig zolkowski is my guest and will entertain your questions at 2 to 7. 6008 a bit of Shameless self-promotion. I must mention it to Minnesota public radio's Jim Bickel is in Tampa, Florida today to begin an entire week of covering the Minnesota Twins in their spring training with exclusive reports on ksjn 1330s Morning Edition and all things considered and he's on the telephone for some strange reason blizzard it in up here. It is a little hot down here right. Now. How how hot is it exists summer? What brings you to our telephone? I do like the environment a baseball outside natural grass in the daytime and preparing for their regular season 2 playing inside the antiseptic. Is that is that a handicap to to to to prepare for your support in such a environment? That's so different than what you're going to actually going to be all you bet. It is that's again to the intangibles. We talked earlier rather Oklahoma State University of the system 80 there for a few years. I'm one questions. We never won Saturday night football games are like Owen 12 and they said well, it's a jinx its axis. Oh no. No I said you would understand sports performance of the reason why things happen to why not and if you can't answer those you're not getting your job done as a coach or whatever the case may be in one reason. Why is it at night time? We never played under light. So there was a key element of Lights. Secondly all the night Fields. They were grass thirdly would happen at nighttime. Our players were used to being peeked around 1:30 in the afternoon. A biological clocks were ready to play at that time and went 1-3 in a day rolls along and see where are we at? I think you see the same thing with the Chicago Cubs you start looking at where they are on a date. Nighttime record right. Now the Metrodome is no more of an advantage for the twins. It is for the other team's coming in there. As of now. The only Advantage you may have is that they have some home crowd that would be very big at the beginning of the year. But when they come in there, it's going to just meant for the twins just like it's going to be a justment for some the other teams come in there until they get acclimated to play in there. And then again, it will become a home field advantage you thinking the best of all possible Worlds. The twins would have their to their training camp at the Metrodome grass. I would have natural grass because they're not going to play Brass. It's not the style of play that they're going to be having at all. So, you know, I think it's some benefits of play Outdoors going to have to play Outdoors sure, but they should have an artificial Surface after training site definitely. Did Isis Tyler play the used to play date. Their their budding game is different there running game is different. It's going to it's going to change who they get back up here to the Metrodome. You going to watch the Twins game today, Jim? Jim's gone. Sorry about test if I tell you what we talked about winning and everything else. I think the state of Minnesota is being really set up for a big letdown this year. You know, I am very happy what happened with the twins, but putting things in perspective everything fell into place. I mean, we still have a BB the six best team in the American League record wise the timing of playing their home games was there we didn't have to use for pictures in a rotation where the playoffs were set up and you know, things just fell into place and I am personally very gratified, but I think people are getting caught up in two twins Mania here and we have some very strong Oakland team and I'm not going to be the least bit surprised if the twins are in second or third Plano eye and I would hate to see people have to have the Twins win win the whole thing again to be happy to enjoy the baseball season Saturday to be enjoying the sport. I enjoyed what happened last year just because I know some of those guys it's a pleasure to deceive them get excited about what happened. It's a pleasure to see them enjoy the fruits of their labor free expression, but it's true but it all has had some really big names stars and I'll fancily have wanted more entertaining games to watch I think baseball is more enjoyable in Minnesota in the 70s when they had some good teams than it was last year because they weren't such a rollercoaster but because they didn't win their division or go to World Series people don't remember that whenever I talk to people I seen a wallet the one common denominator with twins Mania. Was it the entertainment. Was it the scenario of playing at the dorm, obviously not or tailgating. It wasn't there it was winning. In fact didn't even do that very well. They won in the playoffs. But you know, we were we were times in July over there getting slapped in Detroit 10:11 to 1 it's all I think people are really caught up on a bandwagon hear and understand themselves up for a lot of disappointment if they're going to watch winning baseball if they're going to go for enjoyment of really being a part of the twins scene that I think they're going to have an enjoyable year. Yeah, but you got to separate them to 276 thousand is our phone number and we have about another 10 minutes or so with Craig zolkowski Durant's portfolio to talk about sports psychology will go to Wayzata next Joe. Thanks for my pleasure. Great guy, you really trip my trigger there on the the hypnosis as it's applied to sports. That's something I'm personally really interested in. I use it to quit smoking about two-and-a-half years ago in and work like a charm. I think I personally can be applied to about anything but I'm really heavy into a Robux now and I'm interested in what your thoughts are on increasing one's physical. You weren't using the hypnosis technique. Boy again, I think what the mind can do for increasing cardiovascular conditioning is is like being tired late in a tennis match or a racquetball match and having an inner Drive in visualizing where you can go the only way you're ever going to increase cardiovascular conditioning is just that conditioning physically, but I think the mental part is going to give you the ability to go longer to visualize q words of pushing yourself beyond the limit on if you don't want to push yourself beyond the limits to maintain some Focus while I was happy for the both being very boring. I think you've learned her focus on other thoughts whatever the case maybe our picture yourself doing some aerobic session and your perfect place relaxation or whatever the case maybe those things are going to help you considerably but since Just crack 41 here not too long ago and I haven't seen the 20 year old that can keep up with me now, but it took two and a half years to get to that point. I push it a little more every time and I can focus on a spot on the wall once in a while. I think of something that focus on the beach in all things like that and you think that sort of a kind of a sort of a hypnosis techniques and its simplest form you bet it is cuz it's just like when we have women in labor, whatever cases we have an object for them to focus on and that focus of attention is taking her thoughts away from what else is happening. It's kind of like, you know, if your arm is hurting you you're saying yeah, I got I can't play my arms hurting me. I'll sock in your shoulder and the other side and now you're mine goes to his strongest thought which is that shoulder. It's only your arm doesn't hurt as bad as he that's what the whole hypnose senses focus of attention putting your mind on his strongest off cuz you're always going to go to your strongest thought. I get some my recommendations on books to read on Sports as hypnosis is applied to it. There's a ton of them out there and see I'm trying to evade a question. I really don't I can park catalog. What would I look under Just Sports hypnosis psychology in sports psychology will always have sections on it. You know, I I do have some on me but in my library at home, but I just can't think of the names offhand cuz I myself and everybody's always throwing material my way and I glanced at it or pick and choose bits and pieces from everything. I do enjoy your program them out to work 6000. It's almost time for my nap. I'm really excited. But I want to say that was a fun game last night to get Dino World game. So I am tired at least for a good cause there was there was a fun hockey game to watch in the process of getting worn out tournament lose anyway, so that's why I was upset for 3 days for some unknown reason. So I sometimes I might as well just go enjoy the games and all them. Let's go to Saint Paul for a great sulkowski neurons portfolio. Hi Jim. It's not exactly sports but singers and dancers. I can't go through some of the same kinds of situations that athletes do dancers people don't realize what true athletes dancers are number one and secondly how much the Mind plays in there. Like it wouldn't gymnastics or figure skating or golf for that matter and more and more with the pain control rehabilitation in Or being able to focus on their movements and skills dancing is they don't get a lot of publicity and in the media. Anyway, therefore they won't be a lot of publicity and sports Sciences, but it all Plies very much. So on and I say probably the next five years, you'll see most of your your dance studios getting heavily involved in this definitely about the Vietnam prisoners learning instruments that they never had in front of them. So Gourmet or maintaining abilities a Target right now that school is how one might go about actually finding a coach in this area. Hey coach in this area conference coming up here latter part of March twenty five and six were going to bring some of the top people around Harvey Mizell myself. Dr. Jack Curtis works with the Milwaukee Brewers and also with Olympic athletes. You can contact me at 484-8299 and in Saint Paul and it's going to Bethel College the 25 and 26 and we're going to cover not just sports psychology hypnosis, but the whole spectrum of sports performance cuz I again there's too many variables and intangibles in there. I don't like anybody think it just one aspect is going to turn around. Got two colors way to hear that. I definitely want to try to get on there before we have to go go to Minneapolis first. Hi, Jeff help people develop AI that that positive attitude and then what what kinds of success ratios. Does he have with the kinds of things that he does? Well answer the second one first this over Harvey and I go round to rush, you know Harvey you can get away with a 30 or 30 or 40% success ratio here because you have such notoriety if you can keep calm because hypnosis kind of an end thing to do, but he doesn't have to worry about it again hypnosis is not for everything for everybody or everything now. I'm probably up around eighty-five 90% but I have to be very sensitive to my success rate because the minute I do something if kind of off-the-wall or someone doesn't follow the program only goes so see I told you it doesn't work. That's just all Zachary so I'm very sensitive to the clients. I work with and I not sensitive to their to the emotional part but sensitive to what we're doing and I will drop clients for that reason because I want this feel it's progressed as much as possible. I mean frankly there are things that can't work for everybody. I mean a lot of this comes back to the basic ability to concentrate and if people are willing to work on that speaker, I love everything I have to say it and they want to take me home and hire me for the rest of their lies and then we sit down and meet for a while and I start telling them things. They don't want to hear it's only to go. Maybe this is what we really want to do it. I said, well, that's exactly why you're in the situation that you're right. If you don't have the commitment you can't be 80 or 90% committed. You got to be totally committed at looking over your shoulder. If you don't have that I can't work with you because then my reputations on the line and you're not going to get any better either. So let's save everybody to time money and effort for psychologist Greg silkowski. What does hereon sportfolio on ksjn? 1330 we go to South Minneapolis next. Hi Gary. Maybe it's in the realm of relaxation. But that's the whole idea of when your playing sports of actually not thinking too hard about the game kind of letting your body go because just some personal experience of sometimes playing basketball. We're making some plays where I had I thought about it, but I don't think I've ever even be able to do it and just the whole idea of letting your body react to situations rather than trying to press too hard on the body most people called in today and they are doing so many things as well on the road. Like I said, I don't have an answer for a lot things. Are you already gave the answer what you have just talked about is experiential performance or the right brain left brain the left brain being where you're very sequential and so on analytical and golf record analysis does lead to paralysis then that's why they could very tight and they have The Yips and what not. What we want to do is get somebody to You're talking about a basketball going to experiential where your reflexive but not reacting and thinking I got to go ABCD all the time. And last time is a basketball. I'll tell people how do you think a 40-point blowout happens and why and why not everything that goes on and why is one team going one way the other well the team that's losing their losing their their positive self-image. Maybe they're over trying to try to force things more Rosella teams getting more loose and goose and fluid all the time which were $24 and I'll 34 just Poppin them in from all over the place because now they're not thinking now that they're very loose as you would say it but also one point I want to make you know, we talked about Western and Eastern philosophy of sport psychology. Whenever you hear about sports psychology performed, you're always saying relaxation relaxation that is not the key optimal level performance in a Russian sport psychologist. I learned this from and I believe in this more you happy an optimal level. That means not too high. To lure. What is your level of arousal for your support and your individual psyche? That's the real key because you know Jay-Z net. Kapoho relax, we're feeling good and Josh we can finish our state tournament game and we're heading back in a lack of Sam. Coats were relaxed. Just got our butts whipped out there. Are we relax? I see that's that's the trouble with this whole relaxation thing. We eat. We kind of over play at its optimal level. In fact, I would much rather have to pull somebody down for me too high to try to have to get them up or Greg. I appreciate it. It's been an enjoyable educational entertaining hour and I want to thank you for coming out to do it again. Sounds good. Housekeeping City sports psychologist has been our guest here on portfolio by thanks to Winking or associate producer who's actually here today. I was very nice to have you here soon. You did a great job on the phones to and Jeff Walker the technical wizard. Thank you very much. I'm JG Preston. I'm going home to see my wife and kids. I'll see you next Saturday here on portfolio. baseball This Is ksjn 1330 Minneapolis-Saint Paul coming up on one world and national news from the Associated Press is next Denmark High state is along with the week in review