Well, let's move into JG Preston. Hello, Mark. How you doing? You excited for that big North Star game tonight. I don't know what to think these guys make it self destruct really easily. I would think yeah. I want to watch it there in after I everything that was said in the front pages is in the sports section is this week barely emotions are raw. Some guys are some guys are upset but they're all that is very busy is the operative adverb here in every in every case. Yeah, but not the regular season comes to an end for the North Stars tonight and maybe the whole shooting match. I don't know but they won't know till what Sunday night or if they if they get at least a tie tonight at St. Louis than the stars are definitely going into the playoffs. If they lose tonight, then they have to wait until the second game of the Chicago Toronto series tomorrow afternoon, if one team wins both of those games or if Chicago get to win a tie then even if the stars lose tonight, they're still in the playoffs in the stars of not played. Well lately is you know, theyOnly 1/2 of their last-16 games. This is as complicated as the NFL. I almost want to go to sleep. Now. I just wake up one day and see what what happens that have to worry about it. Cuz I just know I mean just think about the brainpower good as far as in Our Stars concerned. I'm not that worried. I guess either way they'll get what's coming to him, but I don't want to think about it, but then I started to play at st. Louis tonight if they do make the playoffs start next Wednesday on the road, but that remains to be seen Twins play this weekend in Florida. They play the Houston Astros this afternoon at Kissimmee, which is right near Orlando and then tomorrow they play the Astros again at Orlando at tinker field. Let me come back to Minnesota Monday night the Twins play the University of Minnesota Gophers at the Metrodome and into tonight the regular season begins against the Oakland A's at the Dome and what they like they may have some umpires and that's it. That's it other ongoing situation in the Baseball World here. They were talking about baseball this afternoon on portfolio. There's some interesting things afoot the twins you may not know this but they have the best exhibition record in the American League 13 + 9They beat the Tigers last night 10 to 5. The weed eater Champion college baseball continues today. They're playing even if I speak the Gophers play a couple of games tonight. They play Michigan at 5. They play UCLA at seven-thirty both those teams ranked among the top book clubs in the nation Gophers lost with Cuban All-Star team last night by score 5-2 to locally. That's what we have to worry about that. There's a national sport story today last year's American League Most Valuable Player in Scion Award winner Rodger Clemens his back in training camp with the Boston Red Sox Clemmons had been gone for a month in a salary dispute and he has not signed a contract yet. However, both sides indicate that they are close to having an agreement made and apparently both Clements and the Red Sox will spend some time in the company of baseball commissioner Peter you brought this week and you brought that acted as a mediator of sorts in this disagreement.And we'll be getting more details about that. One is the situation goes on clematis back. He will not be able to picture opening day Bob Stanley of all people has been chosen to fix the Red Sox opener this year against the Blue Jays but it looks like lemons will be with the team and able to get back into uniform it on the mound pretty soon. So good news for Red Sox fans. And I guess bandage for those of us in the russian-american lady in sweats or twice or three times a year that said it is 5 minutes after 12 and we should get started on the portfolio because we have a fun program today. My name is Jade you Preston here on ksjn 1330. We spoke a bit ago about baseball commissioner Peter, ueberroth we have is our guest this afternoon his predecessor as the commissioner of baseball the man who oversaw the game for 16 years, but we killed it was back in the news these days. He's the author of The Autobiography, I guess Memoirs, whatever you want to call it great title Hardball the education of a baseball commissioner the weekend. I want to thank you for coming on this afternoon. I understand that the elements are not cooperating.New York weather report JJ and I can hardly believe I hear is that the drivers and all of that is absolutely pouring and it's Gail like here in the yard show but I think you've been safer now they told me you might have to bail out of your office building there if the winds keep up. What does the buildings by Emily will understand you will understand if you have to get up and go ATS. All right. Well, let's Jump Right In Here With both feet before I do I'll give you folks the phone number to call if you have questions for Bowie Kim to 276 thousand is our phone number here on ksjn calling from outside the Twin Cities metro area. Feel free to call collect. Our area code of course is 612. The number is 227-6400 a avoid the Rodger Clemens story this morning and it sounds an awful lot like the divide a blue story of 1972 at which time you got involved to get by theBack together with Charlie Finley in the Oakland A's in the bookcase Charlie. Finley was really saying I got it off of the table. That's it. Don't come to talk to me until you're ready to sign. He was farming the world's the Red Sox in quite a bit did Peter ask for your advice and Counsel on this matter at all during the course of it. So I would advise him toNah, just coming back without a contract. I understand he can't legally play until he has one sign can a little bit of making a deal Vitae blue 15 years ago. Well, Charlie was putting the fifty thousand on the table. This was after blue. It had that fabulous a year when she records and and blue was at the electrical 414000. Actually Charlie's figure was not a terrible figure by the standards of the of the early.Not terrible for him for young picture. But the thing that perplexes bothered me was a Charlie was being so obdurate, you know a joke about a dividend. The first American League was very concerned that they were going to lose the entire season and try to get Charlie moving. So I did and they made a deal with it really around $66,000 requiring a blue diamond drop considerably from the lemons were talking about the seven-figure proposals here.I'm about to call 24 hours in hotel room suite hotel rooms with Charlie and blue and and blues agent. I got this thing and then at the last minute I fell apart on it on at the tail, and I said I wouldn't I wouldn't I hate Donna publicity. I was had all that I said, all right, Charlie going to have to keep this offer open.You got the Feeling over that he said he's taking off the table. That is all over. I see you're going to have to keep this offer open because I think I felt very strongly the fluid come around to the Charlie. That's too bad. He wanted to make a deal anymore. And I said you either what we're going to do you have that power as commissioner just be able to declare revita free agent at that point.Robert in the best interest of baseball Clause here. Are there many players you think that would apply to the interest of keeping a player involved in the game would be that overriding Oh, I think you reply to a lot of players really. You've got this commissioner. You've got to look at any particular situation and try to figure out how important it is the game how much difference it makes and then try to shape the personalities of the problem. So you never you never quite have the same pattern with these kaleidoscopically a very good all over the lot with Solutions and how they are to be worked out. So you don't have any precise pattern you have to start taking each problem on its own portfolio here on ksjn 1330. MJG Preston will take your questions for Bowie at 227 6001 and only Sue winking Lance of the telephone and get you on the year with Bowie. How to get this program together over the last couple of weeks for which I am grateful to 276 thousand or phone number will talk to Bowie Kuhn who's a book just published from Times books Hardball detailing his account of his ears in baseball. He was commissioner from 1969 until Peter ueberroth took over late in 1984 a boy one other question about something going on in the news with baseball this week. I guess the Commissioner's Office may not be directly involved yet. But certainly the Dwight Gooden drug Revelations came as a real shock and I guess a saddening blow to a lot of baseball pants. That is the way I reacted to it when I heard that news I obviously his behavior in the last year or so has been erratic and one would have to at least $1 and I certainly wondered if something was amiss like this, but he talked about the importance of a particular player here may have here maybe one of the most attractive call for Players that are gay don't nobody made more Heroes and then the dock and the pet success last year for Huntley height and all that for him. Today is evolving cocaine after all of the warnings have been issued by baseball. Is that how I won't tolerate all that is on the kids out there who? Just have to be a doable and worship and I like this guy that's that's the part. I find very sad that I try to be good. But I find it hard really to be very sympathetic but it's not hard to be sympathetic with the kids who have had an idle chatter and placed on the disabled list to go into the dependency treatment, but that the commissioner's office has not gotten directly involved with this one's. All right. I know how does the weather supposed to be a case where? I should be put through Rehabilitation and then told it ain't like that ever happens again. He's in trouble. I just don't know how it's going to work out. But the cases of Dave Parker Keith Hernandez and the rest of the available president. Are we looking at the likely have to find public service work for Gooding to be reinstated did not volunteer. Did not voluntarily come forth with a problem which makes a difference I think and how they can handle that has voluntarily come forward. The indications are this is that is so but I don't know for sure. Is that is that what I think that's a fact for the commissioner has two newspapers boy. It it it really makes me scratch my head. Anyway, he apparently the word is it Dwight's agent said the Dwight was insisted on being tested and he course he did not test clean you test it was The cocaine I don't know why a guy I mean you must have had some idea that it was showing his test would volunteer to be tested unless he figured he had to get out and make the first move to to lessen the discipline against him again last year when the rumors are going around that good might be involved with drugs in order to dispel those rumors. Work out a deal with Frank Ashen the regional manager, whereby he voluntarily he said that he would be tested periodically as that goes back sometimes if that was put in place of his contract if it was pursuing to that that Arrangement is that he was recently tested and found to be the commissioner ship but how can a player is prominent and is important to baseball is Dwight Gooden especially given the erratic nature of his behavior over the last 12 months or more how many be getting involved in cocaine without the knowledge of somebody in baseball's hierarchy? Well, you have to wonder if there weren't enough signs here so that the mess could have received it. I don't know the facts and the facts right now and I'm sure in time we will JJ but maybe he was involved with her prompted me to do a lot of wondering I think if I were the shoes of the Nets, I don't know what they actually did was Waterboy from problem or what what they did, but I'm going to be at this was a limited. Indulgence on his part that we don't have a guy who has gotten deeply involved to a point where he's there is a serious addiction if you if so it's going to be a long time by Karen Louise is the ultimate concern with drugs the the role modeling for four other people for fans or does it have a lot to do with maybe the the expense of the Habit in the the all maybe the temptation to get involved with gambling at that point. Has long tried to put itself on its best and the pedestal a good contact going back today to black socks to the coming of the first commissioner baseball. I think it's not very high standards for there is there is that that is the image of the game itself is there is the impact on on kids and other people who I lied to follow these athletes so they didn't want to be on any pedestal. The fact matter is when you when you become a major league baseball player, but you like it or not you on that pedestal and it has that impact on kids so you got to be very very careful. There's a question of the impact on the health of the fires themselves. And I think that's very serious. Okay, so if you got all these factors, I think it has to be considered along with the very real danger that the people in this situation becomes susceptible to Gamblers. Who is that the gambling danger of the Galaxy they can also say look with a play with cocaine and whatever you may need to do to protect yourself if you were to be concerned about his professional and amateur The former commissioner of baseball BBQ in our guest this afternoon on portfolio here on ksjn 1330 his Memoirs Hardball the education of a baseball commissioner just published from times book. MJG Preston our phone number for your questions for Bowie Kuhn is227 6001 and talk to us in South Minneapolis is Gary go ahead. Mr. Kim before they can the commissioner be curious to find out the steps involved in how I became commissioner and now it was his motivation for taking the job. Well, that's that's spelled it on Hardball to let me give you these days the shortest possible answer when I was a kid coming out of love. I was devoted the baseball have been really all my life since I was a little fella and I came to York to look for a law firm to work for I had to let go of all that lot going on. I can pick my mom's and pretty good Burns. I pick up for baseball when I got here. That's where I've gone back to her. Since I left his office when I when I got here I asked to let me work on baseball and sure enough they were on and off a little cousin lawyers get the bookie firm for about 19 years. And as I was offered the job on a temporary one of your faces while they look I did like that that too well, but when they and I did take it on their faces, but surely after that they came to me and said how about a game and I thought it'd be a lot of fun. That was partly true if they're too many variables involved in this boy, but the handle it anyway you feel like would you still be commissioned or today? You think it for you at the best of all possible worlds? Yes. Yes, I think so in nineteen eighty-one better together and no but I like to call a cabal and then decided to try to get me under are incredibly archaic rules and had to have those boats not held together and there was some question is do you see whether they would I think it's no question. I would have been really like you to find me throughout the day in the battle for the heartbroken that things worked out as much as they did sixteen years is a long time to have that job and I'm I think Peter is very good night. I'm happy to be off of other things a lot of other things you mentioned in the book that really aside from the decision to allow Mickey May's Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays to retain ties to baseball while retaining ties with the public relations. Do you say gambling casinos in New Jersey that aside from that really you pretty much agree with everything you brought this done as commissioner. Mexican commissioner that I think you got to be he is he is he is really have to fly on pants. See he's not a guy that looks around 4, I guess given Peters personality and maybe some of the expectations that were put upon him when he took office as commissioner. I guess I'm kind of surprised person that he's been a fairly low profile commissioner. He really hasn't been involved in in in a whole lot of controversy himself. I think they are the parents of a man who like to high-profile. You couldn't avoid it. I guess if you were the Olympics in a Man of the Year by Time magazine in competition with everybody who has the world. Accomplishment, you got to the baseball and then began to use a much more subtle Styles and I think people thought the charger I do if I suspect that all along Peter had a more subtle style of work that at that you could avoid the glare of the Olympics does the intensity of that situation by the baseball, which is much more long-term thing for baseball commissioner Bowie. Kuhn is our guest this afternoon on sportfolio. MJG Preston you listen to Minnesota Public Radio. Ksjn 1330 our phone number for your questions for Bowie is227 6000 have a question about the events that happened during the lowest terms commissioner. What's going on in baseball today or heck what's going on in a legal business as far as that's concerned your phone call is our number here on portfolio Peter, ueberroth was elected commissioner. There was a lot of public speculation that it was being a stepping-stone type of job to a political career, you know, Peter pretty well. That's a possibility with him for having stayed around his commission so long not because he didn't think 16 years is too long. You should have What are you having fun doing something out of the guy who tends to feel that? I change of occupation you put together here and the Olympics he's as baseball based on those kinds of observations. I think that's the one that's it might be the kind of challenging would enjoy so I would have to put it down to volume number is 227-6202 in cities with the steering wheel in one hand and a car phone in the other is ADD. Go ahead and you're on the air slow down. Yeah, thank you. I got a question about the Major League Baseball interleague play. I've been a season-ticket holder for about the 10 years of the Minnesota Twins. And I think that the interleague play with the terrific for baseball. Why can't the arrangement long been a supporter of inner leg play so long as it has it would be very limited. I think something like six of the nine games a year for team played in her leg would be good. Sickly in the clubs played Regional opponent other is The Hunger Games with the Red Sox or the Nets to play a certain number games with the Baltimore Orioles. Obviously, the twins with play games are the Cubs or St. Louis or something like that. As long as it doesn't get to be too big a part of the schedule be conservative as in our business. And in many ways. I'm I'm very concerned about this game has almost eight ball fans are concerned it out of balance is a schedule at Games that the stomach that the twins with play a slightly different schedule than the other teams in their division. And also there is a concern that on the part of something so I don't think it's realistic water down the the World Series II really don't see that the American support of their league play is probably need anyting diminishing. I did some sampling through a marketing organization. We hired over at 10 or so years ago that supports really play with his grandmother fan tonight by myself until it was I would like it but I just don't see it right around the corner hot issue, but I got to be honest. I don't even think about it anymore, just doesn't even enter. My mind is a consideration. And I've heard all the questions that are currently at people's mind judging by that to her. There is a lot of interest there like 5 cuz I'm pretty regularly almost every interview I do but I do think it has 28 minutes after 12 here on ksjn 1330. MJG Preston, you're in the sunny dry beautiful Twin Cities former baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn is in a rain-soaked New York and we'll take your questions for Bowie his Memoirs Hardball just been published by times book account of his 16 years has baseball commissioner to 276 thousand is our phone number here on ksjn 2276 thousand in the book that you go back with Calvin Griffith too many years before you became baseball commissioner. Maybe you could talk to us a little bit of some of the early memories of the man who was fast becoming Minnesota state bird folk hero. Call Carol is a wonderful phrase for Calvin Calvin. I came to the parent love you been running the Charlotte Hornets and their farm system. They said they were paid for not having a perfect Farms has it but producing remarkably. Well out of it a lot of it in the family about the time. I got to be scoreboard boy Christmas day in Washington DC. So my boss to pay me was that other than but I was going to work for me for I can sense that. He is very good that the he is today the Fitbit older on it. And what is the fun to be around? That's the way I feel or did you have arbitration at your disposal? We got a dollar game and I can tell you when in 1939 for this is Minnesota Public Radio. Ksjn. 1330 Minneapolis-Saint Paul. You're listening is portfolio MJG Preston and we're talking with the former commissioner of baseball Bowie. Kuhn Hardball recently released by X books. Take your questions for Booyah to 276 thousand-dollar waiting in St. Paul. Go ahead and it reminds me of how much I missed. Games outside. I wish you would comment on the influence of Domes and artificial turf on the game. And what do you think they'll be expanded and usage in the future? Right? I am not a particular dogs are covered stadiums. I think the fact that matter is that if you're going to put baseball and all of the places where you would like to have it. That you're going to have to have covered stadiums in something in those areas where weather requires it weather in Seattle or whether it's this I'm afraid he does is the fact of life and it's a compromise that you that you have to make. It's like artificial turf when the Cincinnati Club, but I was absolutely amazed because the club is on at that time by Bob house them was only the truth as we have had but also about to leave grass cut from a distance. Then we have to assure them really player ball games and on artificial turf. And for 10 years is inside a club cancelled one date and became one of the best rowing teams in Major League Baseball in Kansas City. So I think you make some compromises long away ideal, you know, I love to see all games played in the sunshine on grass in July, but that's not taking your questions for former baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn this afternoon Iran's portfolio our phone number to 27 6000 Quebec St. Paul. Hi, Bob. Bobby we were on the air. Does he thinks that they're heavier things to do with a drug flow in the sports world the whole relationship between the skyrocketing salaries in baseball in the the I don't know if profusion is the right word, but certainly did more prominent instances of drug problems over the last 10 years or so. I had to recognize the fact that played paid players these a very large sums of money in dollars is born vacation. Because of crack which is the primary I do a lot of traffic work in this city with a teenager. Without making a million dollars are $100,000 or $20,000. So I don't think it's a function of his own immediate personal interests and desires but I am far from convinced that the drugs are our phone number here on sportfolio is 2 to 76,000 time. JG Preston Our Guest this afternoon former baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn go over to Minneapolis now. Hi Paul. Long as we're talking about money that bought the older players. I think it's the pre 59 players who aren't covered by pension benefits and possibly even medical. I'm not sure about that but it seems like a large contracts are available to the media that there might be something to be done for some of these fellows who are getting older and a problem won't continue once these guys out but there is a sadness one of the things that baseball couldn't could do something more. I agree with you completely the fact that some of the older players who contributed significantly to the great growth of the game in today and do not do about tension wires are the current players is an unfortunate fact and is Putting together programs which are designed to raise money so that the the pensions and benefits of the older players are in hand. So I think you're going to see developments in that direction. I also would like to see today's younger player is in when I get to Barney remix more prepared better prepared to do something for the fellows who historically help to to build this game to get in there without saying that you're on the right track. I have to go to work until nearly players as well player than I really do think that we're making progress on that and are well aware of the problem. But your question is a very good with commissioner of baseball is our guest this afternoon on sportfolio 23 minutes before 1 and the phone number here at ksjn is 2 to 76,000 your questions for Bowie Kuhn to 276 thousand Louis from your now somewhat detached position the back in the legal profession. What is your view of the the free-agent situation over this past winter and baseball did you ever think you would see this type of a winner after some of the freedom and is he presided over? It took off for the crazy lady George Steinbrenner before he contracted it looked it looked mad and what he do. Kind of thing had a little turn to George when they get a terrible public relations fine with their press with their pants. So they had their friend Calvin is becoming a prophet and the other clubs are finally recognizing that you can't do this kind of thing. He definitely or else you're going to drive your ticket price so high you'll drive it out of the ballpark. So at a level where we now reach to 500,000 average salary for Major League ballplayer, it looks as if Steinbrenner has has finally stopped but then I think you could say that look like yours is stopped and I think yours is finally look the bomb on his operation since he's a very good thank you better start following the pattern more of the good players like Minnesota like the Dodgers like the Red Sox baseball are thoroughly sick of the word collusion Bowie but to what extent is it relevant this winter? Well, obviously I am I detached position. I don't know the facts baseball man-boy lawyer and commissioner for 37 years and I believe that they could have conspired to put together something as complex as this as it looks are. They Following the Leader or are they no longer have the pressure then to follow a very possible? Yes. There's nothing wrong with that if that is what has happened. It seems to me and not inevitably drive that the average player salary up up up from where it started $50,000 10 years ago. I think it's because last couple years is there is a serving of the loud house rating in a season preview story on the Associated Press this morning and they quoted Barry Roan of the player relations Council the owners bargaining unit with the players in the collective bargaining process. I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but the berry said something to the effect that you know, the players used to tell the owners that nobody was holding a gun to their heads to pay those outrageous salaries. And now that we tell them the same things they don't like it so much. Which was running out the fall of the prep players many years ago. Now it is is changing the others of my life. And I think a lot of people now that have been agreed that the owners are behaving wisely and safely in the end of the game and certainly need visa transactions, but I have to say that my feeling is the free-agent era did a lot to do increase interest in baseball specially during the off-season and I've got to say that didn't appear to have any adverse effect on the Send a bounce. I was very much concerned about the seem to be born out because more teams got into it again to tell if against spread around a little better, but I think much more important than was the right through. Almost to a club. I began to intensify their Player Development. I think that did more for competitive balance anything that's happened in the in the game. Also, I would call with the notion that free agency has helped the game in popularity in the offseason simply for this reason. What it has displaced is the great trades we used to get I need to grow cherries are more exciting or more fun to the fans because you didn't just lose a great player. You got players back and Joey credit much more interest in excitement. Then then free agency has you look Wednesday all that you get back at 3 and amateur draft choice volume a lot of negativism. Hands down some wisdom boy. What would what kind of picture would you like to paint for both free agency and the arbitration issue over the coming years his his his crazy is today's picture. It was adopted. That's something I am I approved of long before there was free agency. It is no longer really makes any sense to have salary arbitration today because of the free-agent situation. I think that's what you're looking at today should hold as a pattern of the way. It is perfectly sound adjustment in the free agency system individually arrived at if that's the case and that's what you're going to say. They conversations thing level low. I think you're going to protect the ticket price and I think the game convened continue without anybody saying they have been hurt or unfairly treated. Continue is great Rising popularity is growing tremendously high today going to grow even more dramatically around around the world. And I think you're going to see the day and I'm going to try to see it. My baseball will supplant soccer is the most popular sport in the world. Do you think baseball is likely to continue to have a free agency system in which prominent players change teams with any regularity Bowie? You think that the length of service to six years before free agency is a likely to stay the same or change. You're going to see free agents moving. All right, just as you've seen it on Sonora Parish move. But I don't think you're going to see anything like the frequency of movement that we have seen in the past and frankly. I think that's good. I guess I'm just an old ball fan when I say from the Red Sox when he moved to the White Sox today. It was an example of how Chicago making the players look like Haitians, and I don't think that's good for the game. We're talking with former baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn this afternoon Iran's portfolio on ksjn 1330 MJG Preston. Our telephone number for your questions for Bowie is 2276 thousand a week and the book is called Hardball the education of a baseball commissioner in which details in great detail and my dad and his 16 years is the baseballs. R227 6004 questions for Bowie Kuhn who I realize I'm asking the the essay question to constitute 70% of the final exam in Modern Baseball history, but would you compare and contrast the 1981 strike in the 1985 the baseball player strike and talk about why one took two months to settle the other took 2 days. Two basic reasons why they were different the 81 strike was the one issue. free agents when you have a 1 issue negotiation and the issue was an important issue to beside you are really asking for a strike. And the reason you're asking for he's got nothing to trade off back and forth. Whereas if you have any issues on the table as we did in 1985 and there was a big issues such as how much is the clubs are going to be putting any of those players pension plans as a very big issue salary arbitration in the back in the given take of negotiations any issues. You can get a solution much more easily. So that was a major difference between the two secondly the strike of 1981 deserve the purpose of warning besides a how grievously about the ownership and the players. So I think it was a bit early and hard and learned a lesson that they got an 81 and I think they remember it's 95 you write in your book about the Optics. You should have locked people up in a room back in 1981 album hammer out that agreement. Would you talk about that a little bit in your feelings about that killed people in this office that you can stay here until we get it resolved that I could I could do and then I could do if he wants to but on the other hand you go to Union protected by the labor laws in the United States except what to do if it doesn't want to do it so they can measure clearly has the power to direct the owners. Listen to be there for him to the room. Ksjn. 1330. MJG Preston were talking with former baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn this afternoon on sportfolio to 276 thousands are phone number. That's go to Bloomington by James. The national league doesn't have the DH thing. And if you think that they ever will I don't think I think the reason they don't have it is because they do not want it. They can one point maybe five six seven years ago. They came close to having enough votes to adopt it. That was a high water mark since then, I would say the last leg has gone the other way. I don't think there's a chance in the world in their select would adopt it today. And nor do I see any Prospect of the thing adopted in the it down the line and is in there. Play I think that everything question is whether there is a prospect of both leg topping the same system either both use it or both not use it. There. You have a third player. Where is the Players Association? I think the Players Association has a vested interest in the ADH because it's a specialized player has been willing to give it up my forecast is you're going to see the present system for this for quite a while. What are the things that Peter ueberroth do when he took office as commissioner Bowie that they got a lot of play at the time was was talked in Grand terms about commissioning a study of fans to get their opinions on the DH and it seems strange to me that we haven't heard anything about that since then. Well, I was hopeful that he would be able to generate. By the attention he gave the problem of some kind of Common Ground where the players in the twolegs could could come out with that simply did not emerge partly for the reasons. I've just out of line and I think he was frustrated in a very well attended the desire to get this thing resolved. I think it's going to be difficult to 276 thousand or phone number here on ksjn for your questions for former baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn. Let's go to Minneapolis next. Hi Bill prices in ticket prices in the honestly think so you certainly can't reach that conclusion by looking at attendance figures in baseball in the last ten eleven years. Also if you look at the baseball ticket price it is in Average ticket price is now and there's only about six $7 which means that the since the time of free agency 11 years ago. It has not gone up nearly as fast as inflation. I would have taken it had it been merely followed the cost of living index. So I think it's stayed within reasonable rain. I'm not saying $67 is cheap at the little movie these days you pay something like that baseball has been very competitive with other forms of entertainment including the movie looking at today's entertainment field in which baseball compete they have held their own what I'm worried about maybe more than likely take off because the broadcast revenues which have fueled Big two-player compensation ride more than anything else they player. They sell your car for operation, which means there's only looking back to the 1960s when the twins annually led the American League in attendance with figures of about a million for the bigger. The twins are still had a difficult time topping in recent years. But any more a million for in the bottom corner of the major leagues Duvall me to make love to do a couple million be drawn 52 why you not quite there, but you're getting off into that zone so that you can draw a lot of people today. I just at the average in major league baseball and that is one of these modern reality. Let me last year for the first time every team do at least a million but the to put that in some perspective who got to look at What is typical of former baseball commissioner portfolio for a few more minutes this afternoon? And his book Hardball just published in hardback by Times books to 276 thousand. If you have a question for Bowie this afternoon to 276 thousand by the owners who are maybe I'll Grant you the major constituents constituency in baseball. But only one of those constituencies is that a system that is right for rethinking for the players be involved somehow umpires or even fans in the The Players had a voice in it the The reason I say that is this if you have a commissioner who is truly elected by the players on the club's if it comes closer to be resolved, I don't see where are there be much use or a Players Association and I find it difficult under those circumstances approach to the problem. How you wrote in Hardball, but we a little bit about the problems. The Twins were having back in 1984 in the speculation at the time that the franchise might be moved from the Twin Cities. Talk about that a little bit. How close did Minnesota come to losing its baseball team report? And then there came a time when they large molarity block of stock in the twins if I gave Murphy was bought by Tampa interest and the Bobby Brown who at that point we were changing places. Frozen turkey leg and I said look how I can understand that you want to get the best price you can get and what it what the what the market is. But the fact of matter is this ball Club isn't leaving Locale could have easily said they'll forget it tonight because Al Davis just walked out of Oakland and Los Angeles in the NFL in the NFL Calvin was much too much a man who believed that the commissioner and who believes and in the overall best of the game to even threaten anything like that. Yes, sir. That don't worry. I will sell it here. And there was Miss pole as to who was standing felon to have available to buy to play pay the right at it if we manage to get that sold and turn to to call so the Palm is all that we have I think that we should have took forever because I was in the area I guess not depending on how you define. I don't see it one or two years and I think three four five years is you are going to see it we came we were getting close to it a couple years ago. I wish I might be interested in getting involved in Washington franchise. But then if it has a game in front of the ownership to say no it is premature. We don't look into it. Now. It's always been a little bit but I think it's coming back to somebody said he's out there in North America who legitimately aspire to have I think you're going to can you see yourself coming back to baseball to formal capacity Bowie they're involved in ownership or or heaven forbid as commissioner. Again, the answer would still be no, but as far as I could conceive of that actually I've gotten so involved in things here in the That I don't see myself getting involved in a in a major way in the major executive way. And I've also got dissolves how many public service be helpful as catalysts and putting a group together for Washington if that day came and I would I would like to do that is called Hardball the education of a baseball commissioner. It's published by X books. And I think it's a very interesting historical Legacy for Baseball fans in the stories through the years to look back at the turbulent times of the seventies and eighties and The Weeknd rolling former baseball commissioner Bowie. Kuhn Our Guest looks like you survived the elements Bowie. I want to thank you very much for taking the time to talk to her son's portfolio. The weekend has been with us this afternoon and next week. We'll continue to talk about baseball when we have Steve hurt of the Elias Sports Bureau. As our guests. Elias is the statistical outfit that publishes among other things that you like baseball analyst which is an interesting compendium of Statistics from all over the baseball Spectrum. It's a meeting for the hardcore Baseball fans and Steve her can tell us about how it's put together and talk to us about some of the interesting statistics to come out as a result Steve hurt Our Guest next week on portfolio associate producers to Winking who worked literally long and hard hours to get this program together and get Bowie Kuhn on the Air Force. I think the Dave sleep heart technical Wizard and quite a nice voice to MJG Preston. Thank you very much for a listing this afternoon. We'll see you again next Saturday on sportfolio. Don't forget Mark II stats coming back indeed is a good show. JJ. I ain't good enough so we can review coming up next year on KS chance to do stay tuned to ksjn Minneapolis-Saint Paul. It's 1