Brendan short-haul the executive director of the Irish American cultural Institute and entity that is based in st. Paul. But with the basically a worldwide constituency, I think we could say certainly a United States constituency Brendan we welcome you and we notice the fitting emblem on your tie the Shamrock and also I suppose you have been busy already today perhaps you were out at some of the events noting what's going on in St. Paul is part of St. Patrick's Day. We have news reports Brendan that the turnout in Dublin where you are from originally was a record turnout for today Saint Patrick's Day Parade in Dublin, I think about 250,000 Marchers, which would make that quite a big parade. Is that right? Yeah. It's not yours on probably speed lining the sidewalk as well.And then and then with all the festivities yesterday Sunday a parade in Beverly Hills California of all places with a red green carpet a mile long I had about that. They have their own way of doing things in California as I say, well there a cultural expressions of All Sorts Charter Brandon, and that's what we're going to be at talking about today during the noon hour with Brendan short-haul executive director of the Irish American cultural Society The Institute in st. Paul. We'll talk about the Institute will talk about the importance of the Irish connection with the United States and their we invite your questions. You would like to be Irish sure. If you are Irish, you can call us in the Twin Cities at 227-6207 6000. That's the Twin Cities local call number outside the Twin Cities within Minnesota no charge for this call at 1 800-652-9700 1 800-652-9700 or anywhere you can hear our voice you can simply.Dallas area code six one two and then to 276 thousand Saint Patrick the patron saint of Ireland give us a few seconds explanation. If you will Brendan of Saint Patrick Saint Patrick change the face of Ireland in the sense that he he made an extraordinary impact on Ireland and it's people we're talkin about events that occurred over 1,500 years ago send Patrick career in Ireland range from the year 432 on to the death in about four sixty-one. So the detailed written records of those times needless to say, I'm very sparse. We have some writings of Patrick's own about his experiences in Ireland in his feelings about his extraordinary Mission, and we also have a carcinogen the know I'm as wealth of literature and legend that is grown up in their division. Just hear that he transformed Ireland virtually single-handed play to the point where within a hundred years or so of his death Irish people wear themselves going out as as missionaries in a sense to most of it.The Western Europe after the fall of the Roman Empire and he also was instrumental for beginning the process of setting up so many Institutes of learning of culture of prep work and so forth in the great flowering of our civilization that took place in the 6th 7th 8th and 9th centuries. You mentioned to me on the telephone Friday that you're a native of Dublin. Would you describe to me in an interesting way a city with a Nordic background what you mean by that Brendan? I meant that they the present city of Dublin has its Origins to a Sacrament by the Vikings who came to Ireland in the 8th 9th 9th 10th and 11th centuries. There had been an Irish Settlement. They are in that locality running back several centuries earlier and back many centuries earlier, but they did present old part of Dublin City is essentially a viking establishment dungeon in recent years with them a considerable amount of excavation work has been done in Dublin City Centre revealing an enormous wealthEssentially Scandinavian and Viking artifacts and remains. So it's a it's a it's a city that has very close ties with all of the Scandinavian countries has his voice he's director of the Irish American cultural Institute based in Saint Paul and Brendan is our guests in the studio the number in the Twin Cities, if you'd like to call with a question, and I think we have a collar or two on the line is 2276 thousand to 276 thousand listeners outside the Twin Cities with in Minnesota can call us toll-free 1-800 65290 701-806-5297 caller on the line will get to the first question. Good afternoon. We're listening. My husband's family's name is McCoy and they say they are Irish, but in reading about Ireland and things Irish, I do not say that name cropping.Very much, and I'm just wondering if it is Mel spelled differently, or if they are mistaken. It is not Irish or could tell me something about that. Thank you. Hello MMC Co why is that the spelling? I think she has to go in like to go on yet. And the it is an Irish name. It's found predominantly in the north of Ireland probably has been spelled in a variety of ways, but I'm not an authority on on the genealogical matters, but it is it is certainly an artist named and one that I've encountered myself. So I don't think you need of any doubt about its authenticity but I suppose the transformation of Irish names can take some unusual twists and turns they do often through for example immigration officers transcribing names incorrectly perhaps or through as simply people altering spellings for one reason or another history on arrival in this part of the world will get to that question right now. Good afternoon, Brenda. Jordan was listening. Good afternoon. Contact. Yes. This is the kind of question that I should have prompted of course, but you was coming out with it without any prompting and I'm delighted to give to a mailing address, which is 683 Osceola Avenue Osceola. Osceola Avenue Saint Paul. That's Minnesota. 55105 and our telephone number there is area code 612-647-5675 post it's a good point at which to say something Brendan about your work after all you're fairly new on board at the at the Institute. Yes. I've only been in Minnesota since they are just coming through my good luck there and fly in St. Paul of all places to Bass this institute, which has a nationwide scope. I think it did it comes as a surprise to people to find that the national office of probably the premier membership organization in Irish. America is located here in the Twin Cities. It's essentially an accident of History which has proved very advantageous to us because it is Does sandwich has in a sentence made in facilitated so many of our operations because it there's a certain sense in which from this vantage point. We are able to view the nation as a whole or as if we had begun our work to say in the New Yorker in one of those cities more obviously associated with the Irish. We might see New York State's never have got Beyond The Hudson with so much to do. It's an accident of history of they say they found principal founder and the longtime residents and now the chairman of the board of Art Institute while dr. Mckernan was at the time champion of the English Department of the College of st. Thomas and st. Paul when the inspiration so to speak came to maturity in his mind and The Institute has them being that it's national office here in the trenches City since that time he is that's about 24 years ago since it was founded with a so-called a political or neutral organization, especially as it concerns the issue of Northern, Ireland. We weave number among our membership people of all religious and political backgrounds and we're glad to do that and the way they find so to speak, and caused in fostering a greater unawareness an understanding of the riches of the Irish traditional Heritage in the virus civilization so that we don't involve ourselves in questions of current political controversy feeling that everyone who is of Irish descent should feel at home within our ranks how many members of the tens of thousands many of them are affiliated through chapters, which we have right across the nation with chapters in many cities from coast to coast in the number are directly Affiliated shows in st. Paul so that I wouldn't have a precise number right? Let's go back to the telephone with another question. Good afternoon. Brenda short always listening for your question. Top of the afternoon to you. I do it so we'll call it good enough. I got that usually the most assertive 1/8 vs O'Brien. Geometric border designs that are seen in the Canadian countries as well as in Ireland. Can you say something about the origin of these most of the time nowadays as castic design tkaczuk illumination and passwords derived from the and the great bursts of manuscript literature that is available from the 7th 8th 9th centuries in Ireland which were the product of the monasteries set up after the time of Saint Patrick an enormous amount of work of the most extraordinary artistic quality and intricate detail was produced by hand. Of course by in these monastic settlements many of these books survived to the present day and we will probably have heard of The Book of Kells, which is probably the most famous currently existing at manuscript from the Catholic church and most of fitbit's kind of intricate design. What is found in those ancient manuscripts and they have been adopted and used his mother as far as modern instances of design their habitat was starting to some degree of cross fertilization with the Nordic countries, but not as much as one might expect with questions will get to the next one right now. Good afternoon, Brenda Jordan always listening for your question. Yes, go ahead with your question or statement that we are strictly on your radio in the background that eliminate some of the wine in that will go for any of the other colors too, and then you can hang up and turn your radio back up. their house that I have a comment to make a statement about being I have been a member of the ACI ever since it was founded. In fact, I take the magazine, which is a very early work. It's a quarterly magazine are Ireland and I don't so much comment statement that we avoid any political or Facing a bias of that type which is too often in our news media The Constant Comment of Catholics against Protestants are pressed against the Catholic everyday. We're all Christians and I think that it's lower the media would realize that in the reports and if there was any discussion the terms would be used correctly as the Northern Ireland being unionist Republic of Ireland being Brendon, Urie reaction to the call. No difficulty with that point. It seems to me that has a Veterans Day true. Of course. We we have such an enormous problem of work in front of us and so many as how much to do in terms of developing a a genuine understanding about our civilization and Irish life and that. And we we texted pride in the fact that people Of all these different backgrounds can work together in that cause as so that we might each of us separately. We'll have our own political opinions and ideas. We find that we can find common ground in developing a deeper understanding of the riches of our own common Heritage. All right now every so often to take off on a slightly different topic for a moment. We'll get back to the telephone in just a second. We pick up a National Geographic to read that. It was the Irish who came across the Atlantic perhaps the North Atlantic in some kind of vessel. What's the latest research telling us about whether or not the Irish did indeed come across before Columbus or some other. I have a somewhat vested interest in this is a far as that my own namesake signed Brendan is is a creditors. I've no doubt correctly with the discovery of the part of the globe. And I don't know what time is the present stage of academic research in this area, but I'm prepared to take his on they such evidence as I have available to me that he did. In fact come here. Young and the day before Columbus that were quite crude but apparently very seaworthy at Seafarer Tim Severin to replication at Brandon's journey in that in a similar kind of crafts with some Intrepid souls. He sat across the North Atlantic through by Iceland and Greenland. And in fact, I completed after this passage. They did the trip demonstration that it was at least theoretically possible. We'll get back to the telephone. Good afternoon, Brenda Jordan always listening for your question. I was listening to the morning program today and they were playing some Irish folk music and it had like an Irish flute and a fiddle a some things like that and a couple of instruments were playing for of a drone and and then there was the usual very fast Melody kind of a 12-8 rhythm. and Maya my five-year-old daughter and I commented that it sounded like bagpipes and Other than the actual found in the unit with the texture of the instruments it occurred to me that the that the music was just like a bagpipe the Drone and a kind of Rhythm and everything and I started wondering about the interaction between Irish and Scottish culture both in the Arts and in migration back and forth and I've often wondered about this. What is the relation between those two cultures? There there's anybody closely related and the Gaelic language of Scotland for example is essentially a dialect of of the a traditional Irish language of Irish Gaelic and that has been right down the center is about to kill set interaction between those two cultures and and many movements of people back and forth and the following within the century or so of Saint Patrick's Day at another famous Irish missionary of those that hear a Saint Columba was so to speak the Apostle of the Scots in the sense that he he founded a monastic settlement on the island of Iona off the west coast of Scotland from which they're spread out a a missionary effort into the stuff into that time and he in turn left a very large impact upon Scotland and upon the development of civilization in the area of the language of music of Storytelling of song There are enormous parallels started. The bagpipes are concerned. Your daughter is developing a drone. Whether I would could use the same word myself, but the bagpipes are the different instrument from their traditional Irish pipes known as the alien pipes that are somewhat different instrument played in a slightly different way, but obviously there's a strong Affinity between them as the reason so many aspects of Scottish and Irish culture will get to them right now. Good afternoon listening for your question. But I would like to know is that I do that provide an extensive Travel Service in the end advisory service in a travel arranging service for our own members, of course because we are a membership organization and do with the status of a nonprofit Foundation. But we do provide certain that sounds as far as members. We we guide them in relation to a specific kinds of Tours. We organize starting tours of special interest for our own members and in in a certain sense. We are I suppose a reservoir of information on Ireland on travel to Ireland for anyone who is interested and we're always available to help our chores are primarily, of course, I far around members or it's not difficult to become a member will get back to the telephone. Good afternoon. Brendan is listening for your question. Hello. Yes, go ahead. I don't know how many. One of them is McGuire and one of them. I think this McDonald. I would like to have known for the other Shore Brendan Phyllis in now, I didn't catch the early part of the past and I didn't either but you restate the question for us. How many steps in Ireland? 45 the date back to your 9000 sometimes nine hundred something how many steps except I'm not sure of the precise number. They got the oldest family name in Ireland is at Clark Oro Clary which is essentially means. Okay Siri, which means son of the day the character described. This is the earliest known surname in Ireland and it's one that attests to the to the nature of our society right back in the in the ninth and tenth centuries and the other names that you mentioned it all dirty old names as well. How about that? I have a friend named Clark. I'll bring that up with that the oldest in fact it is possibly the oldest son named as such an Uber to pick up the artist with the first two to develop that's the idea of those separate for names and surnames. Alright, we'll get to the next one. Good afternoon. Brendan short always listening. I'm currently enjoying this program. I really have two questions. I would like to get back to the subject of the manuscripts and planning a trip to Ireland with no. I want to see the Book of Kells. Are there any other store houses of manuscript might be more informative than I am writing a script and there's an Irish term that I don't know the meaning of it. I wish you know, it's a s t h o r e Yes, it's it's a it's a transliteration of an Irish language phrases a store, which means it's essentially my dear. It says that time of endearment is Layla. It stopped up in some some Irish songs that you probably recall of the young child. It's a term of endearment to store a darling and my dear one. That's it an affectionate term of endearment. If you are particularly interested in in AA tour to Ireland that that's developed your awareness and understanding and knowledge of that feels a little bit of preliminary research would repair itself because they're certainly our storehouses of those manuscripts and places where with some preparation you could arrange to see books and manuscripts that might not otherwise be on public display because we're talkin about material that is of course. Very fragile and very ancient and Salon apart from the from Trinity college the library at the University of Dublin at the National Library of Ireland the Royal Irish Academy Dublin Society are some of the learning Societies in Ireland, which I have care all been having their possession and in their libraries some of the work of those kind, so there's a little bit of research would certainly enormously in which the at your visits and enable you to see so much more than you might be able to locate if you are simply to go with all the specters of Our Guest is Brendan short-haul who's executive director of the Irish American cultural Institute based in Saint Paul, and he's in the studio with us taking your questions in the Twin Cities. You can call us at 227-6000 to 276 thousand letters outside the Twin Cities within Minnesota. There's no charge for this call at 1 800-652-9700 1 800-652-9700 will go back to the telephone. sing for your question family agh, is that Irish? Yes, that's Irish at wit's end. It's normally spell nowadays in the anglicize form Sheila and the Irish form. It's an Irish name an ancient Irish name and will be spelled s i l e with an accent on the I but they the customer the English language spelling of it is Sheila but there are people starting the name spelled as you have that is an authentic spelling of it. And the second question go ahead. We may have long we may have lost that color. By the way. Is there a is there a is there a literal translation for most Irish names? For example, this one Sheila doesn't have any particular meaning of the name is a name in descendants names have their daughter vacations many of the artists names would be would be called after figures from Irish mythology or artists Legends and many from Irish Saints Redskins of the the early years of the Catholic church, but I have so many different or I will go back to the telephone good afternoon or waiting for your question seems like all your previous colors have touched on what intrigues me. Seeing the Book of Kells at the museum at the San Francisco few years back, you know, it was in the dark room with very minimal lighting but it is just entrancing to see that something like that has survived and the Artistry that was invested in that one little book. The other color mention between Scotland and Ireland and the bagpipes family name is Armstrong. And when I started looking into it, I found that there were many changes that occurred along the way and I'm not certain how much of it is the Scottish part in the Irish, but I think it's people who are American when I dig into the genealogy and would like to go to the source. Do you have suggestions of the work that we can do on this side of the water to make it more efficient? The the Minnesota Historical Society does have AAA and Irish group that is interested in the Gene Autry neurological questions. I think I know that there is certainly it is possible to do some initial work here on genealogical mattress. And then there are nowadays the number of books at available to guide you through the Maze of work that has to be done in order to to arrive at any real progress in this area and probably ones ones best initial investment. So to speak is to get a book that's simply talks to you about the sources of information and how you can best spend your your time and your dog has presumably in in in tracing the origins of names are are they the family trees and so forth through the starting amount written about this nowadays, I think perhaps in our book store in St. Paul. We have an affiliate organization Irish books and media, which is a major distributor of Irish pubs in the United States, and I know that we have in stock some books that are guide the person making the first faltering steps in what is a very complicated. Add task to Tracy at family trees and Roots because of the the term art of the centuries to widen has has meant that in many cases critical records are are lost. And then is Hotel detective work can be involved in the in the kind of processor speaking about I totally agree. I might say with your comment about the Book of Kells in the manuscripts. I think the first sight of of one of those documents particularly and they kind of I just met conditions that you refer to their can be at him being almost impressive and I think lead to a lifelong interest in Ireland and its culture. All right with all the colors waiting will get to the next one. Good afternoon, Brenda Miss listening for your question. Who am I in the air now, I would like to ask your gift. If you would comment on the great Irish, Carol of many centuries past called Brian boru. Brendan is are going to the filing system in his mind and his eyes rolled having one for just a moment there. Now. He has it at Brian blue is is I suppose one of the most famous Irish historical figures. He's the person who is credited with the defeat. I have to say in Minnesota defeat of the Danes this time of the Scandinavian Sergeant at the Battle of Clontarf, which is it a suburb of Dublin in the year 1014, which is a one of the big turning points in in in in Irish history and Ryan Brew at the time was the leader of the the the the Irish at that. If you're interested in pursuing a Brian the writer Bass the baltimore-based right on Morgan llywelyn has written the very interesting account of his life and times at which is it makes a normal person reading. How many times was Ireland Concord over the centuries, roughly. I don't think we've been conquered. Yes. I usually do not have done that many attempts were made to conquer out. And of course it is the the the after the we had so to speak scene off the the Scandinavians and the Norman invasion of Ireland in the 12th century and that subsequently then to the English domination over Ireland, which of course continued with varying degrees of intensity throughout the centuries. Although it's it's difficult to say that at any time the entire Island was subdued and the weather. In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries when Harlan had a parliament of its own although still coming within the Ambit of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland achieved its independence from Britain at least in some measure in the 90 early 1920s. And of course as part of the island of Ireland is still at least 10 and under the under some measure of authority from the from Great Britain. All right. We'll go back to the telephone. Good afternoon, Brenda. I was listening for your question. Good. Glad you're back with us. I am by Generations Australian. My father was born in castlemaine Victoria Australia by so many people of Irish descent can condone the excess of the IRA while Condemning the exit in heaven knows that I just can't understand to me a terrorist is a terrorist and I just wonder how they can justify. Things that I've done in the name of bullfighting Freedom or whatever it is. Go ahead run to him. That I supposed to have the answer to that question involves the kind of understanding of human nature that is not given to all of us so that I I can't really say what is the answer to that? I do know that so many of the Irish race that are scattered throughout the world in the United States and Canada and South America and Australia and then so many parts of the English-speaking World particulate are the descendants of people who came to Ireland came to those countries who left Ireland I should say at a time when that country was figuratively on its knees when it was Des Peres is despondent destitute and I suppose that they do have folk memories of those times and if they the trials and the DM the suffering is not to put too fine a point on the top of their own ancestors that it is inevitable that something of those feelings continue to assert themselves nowadays. The I don't I don't know that they kind of attitudes and feelings that you have are as widespread as your bias as you might suggest it's possible to generalize from one's only. The environment that in such a way that might not reflect the EDD the full reality we need to to develop a greater understanding and razor actual information about reality. So the people have something more secure basis of information upon which to to develop their judgments. I think sometimes were talking about ghosts reactions as opposed to development positions derived from real knowledge. All right, we have other callers. It's about 31 minutes past 12 and we're listening to Brendan short all the executive director of the Irish American cultural Institute based in Saint Paul will go to the telephone again. Good afternoon. We're listening for your question. Spell it. I heard a few years back and it is really stuck in my mind, but I never found out the name of it. And is I remember the one lying in it was shoot me like an Irish Soldier do not hang you like a dog and it's supposedly commemorated some famous little battle in the revolution. It's wonderful to tell me the name of the song and what it's about. Thank you. Anyway, I don't I have had the lines but I'd escapes me the origins of that. I would suggest that you call that office tomorrow when we're open to the public that I would check that down for you but straight away. I I don't think I can help you out of the lines are familiar to me. How will you track that down Brendan? We have always alright, we'll take other calls right now. Good afternoon. We're listening for your question and legitimate caller here or not. Two pieces we had a big Viking in particular a couple years ago in which the program announced that Dublin had been an Irish Viking City for 200 years and it's astonishing to me that more of the Scandinavian language isn't obvious in years old in this country. And if the French had come into the colonies instead of English me what the Scandinavian safe for book until I see that it had swapped over a little bit and I know that Scandinavian and Irish and Scotch for college schools, are there any other pictures of the Scandinavian language in Irish? It's a very good point. They the one you've made because it is certainly true that the the Scandinavian language is left very little impact up on the artist language. I think we like to attribute that to our capacity to absorb. They they did however welcome their intentions were in the first case or unwelcome and Jen and Andy the history of that particular. In the subsequent centuries was of of successive waves of strangers Invaders, if you like and including the one who adopted Irish ways and intermarried with the Irish Enslaved the Irish language and themselves became a third of the Irish and we're totally assimilated into Irish life, perhaps of the degree of development and indeed sophistication of the artist civilization that they were encountering but it is certainly true and I think it's it's surprising at that. There are so few very very few vestiges of the Scandinavian languages in in in Irish as it is spoken today me an interesting point observation, but the language in Dublin itself, you go back on the streets of Dublin today. What's being spoken and English of course is the predominant language of Ireland and the Irish is the first official language comes with the Constitution is the first official language and everyone who goes through a school in Ireland airlines Irish and knows it to education degree or less a minority language existing side-by-side with the Anglo American culture, which surrounds us is always in a precarious position, but in fact it nowadays there is a Resurgence of interest in the in the a traditional Irish language partly as a a means of a starting out distinctiveness in the in in in the context of a Europe growing increasingly more homogeneous. Can you tell me to what situation do the lyrics of Oh Danny Boy or refer? And is it really an Irish song? This is Iration very old and much older than they the song Danny Boy to which we are associated with which we Association but they did the statue in itself is distinctively Irish and then goes back several centuries. I don't know that the song Danny Boy by itself was written in but it certainly is is I think I was as authentically Irish as you'll get all the colors will get to the next one right now. Good afternoon. Brendan is listening. For taking my call as the lady proceeding me as an Entertainer. I too have a question. I'm a hopeless place. Music especially at this time of year. And there's a name of a tune that I don't know how to pronounce it or what it means is probably very familiar to everybody carrickfergus. Cardfight what does it mean? As long as it's a place named the Irish word for the rock, which is Keurig and service is open is just a a name. That's how it's pronounced. Very good will take another call right now. Good afternoon. Brendan is listening for your question. He was also And in my research I found at the name Savage is fairly common in Ireland France scotch and England. Perhaps you could tell me a little bit about the name. I could locate the information for you, but it is a name that said it's quite common throughout Ireland. I well recall a school friend of mine with the name Savage. It's it's it's quite widely dispersed throughout Garland, but I'm not attempt to measure myself with it said it is a precise location of its origin. But again, it's something that we could track down for you. All right, the mysterious tracking mechanism at the Irish American cultural Institute will apparently be back in session again tomorrow in the office is open is that Ryan Brendan Goodwill go back to the telephone. Good afternoon. We're listening for your question about Irish culture in St. Paul. And having just come from the Saint Patrick's Day parade for I played with the local Irish War pipe band. I move to say I think he's got a terrific almost Herculean task ahead of them and watch the Saint Paul so-called Irish Community for the last 20 years. I am convinced that Irish culture to St.Paul lights meaning either painting your face green and getting drunk or being an armchair Fenian them collecting money for the kneecappers up North. I'm just wondering if Brandon thinks there's any hope for teaching these clowns anything about Irish culture. Hi, I'm altogether too recent arrival in the United States to enter into that kind of argument the I had my first location to be in the United States for Saint Patrick's Day II man. So I see myself in the role of an observer. Is it very different occasion in Ireland religious festival and in the end States it it it has become something of a national celebration of course and a celebrated with the exuberance on the flyer for celebration, which is characteristic of the American people's I hear 2 minutes out. Of course, I can well understand that the anxiety you take any opportunities for the celebration coming towards the end of all the winter which I feel myself having achieved graduation this month and so I can well understand the anxiety for some kind of Celebration as far as the Saint Patrick's Day is contained in Ireland to defeat the feast is predominantly religious in nature. We have our own parades. Of course, that's flamboyant. I think than those in the United States in recent years. Feature of the Irish parade has been the presence of many contingency marching bands and so forth, Merricat, would you add color unquestionably to our own bread. So I think there's something to be said for both points of you. I I do agree with you that she hadn't anyone that's genuine Irish descent can sometimes be be taking it back by the day. They stereotyping of the Irish that can go on at this time III as a newcomer to this land. I would be slow to George and slow to make resumes of something that I'm only beginning to observe and become aware of. All right, we have other colors will get to the next question. Good afternoon. We're listening. How are you? Brandon find? Thank you. And I with the words of the song as far as I could gather, we're rat do not hang me like a dog. I'm from what I can remember it was the song was Kevin Barty if I could be of any help to you yesterday that they did Kevin Barry of course is the famous song about the young man to make Tom. Do you know the song do you want to give us just a little bit on the phone? Early on Monday morning high upon the Kalos tree of Liberty morning. He probably has his head up. I proudly stand to attention as he went to his broken hearted mother who sat grief. No one can tell do not hang me. Like that's what I do. Thank you very much. You're welcome for Brendan short all week. To the next one. Good afternoon. We're listening. I'm wondering if he knows of any other fictional books that are about around that. Of time or nonfiction books which are not in our history books, which would not be a dry a list of of Davidson and kings and things like that but more of of how people lived. And I'll hang up and listen. Thank you. Yes, ma'am, Morgan. Llywelyn has produced several volume Susteren a new one growing hair produce just recently by her which do bring a vividly alive. I think something off of the Spurs and atmosphere of those times. I'm done make history in a sense, live. I do know that in our own bookstore in St. Paul here. We do have them quite a number of titles that might be of interest to you. And I think you could call there you'll be able to get a catalog of books in the area in which you're interested but there is much more available nowadays in the end of that kind in the might have been available or so ago. How do you spell that title of Morgan the Morgan? How do you spell liar? Liar the book that was afraid that was Lion of Ireland yell at her most recent a title is I think is it growing your grainne? I'm not sure whether that's the way she Spell approximately. Good with other colors go get to the next one. Good afternoon Randomness listening. If I was born in County Fair, all right, go ahead had connections with can I have the song itself? The words were written by the toilet and his father went on to become quite famous. And I think this is one of his best-known. Thank you for your program. Will it just shows if we wait long enough for our listeners will supply us the needed information with other colors on the line will get to the next one. Good afternoon. We're listening for your question, LOL. Could you tell us something about the legend of single for home fingal's cave his name now? There's a reference to the giant Fingal in one of the songs of Stan Rogers a Canadian folk singer. Thank you were talking about the legendary Irish hero and fionn maccool want to see the the hero Heroes of very ancient Ireland about homeless some of the Legends and epochs have had have grown up as a figure who is recorded in Legend in both, Ireland and Scotland mythical Sammy Mexican singer about from Norman's number of Legends fantastic another otherwise have grown up and the young the Giant's Causeway for instance in the in Which is at a famous and basalt formation on the North Coast of Ireland have its counterpart in the island of staffa in Scotland on these were tradition recorded. This was a Causeway our pathway developed by this giant figure at 2. Probably between those two lands cuz I don't know how much of it in the old the old Irish language about the exploits of fionn maccool and his his followers fears VR fall 1985 quarterly publication of the Irish American cultural Institute on the back flap is an advertisement from University of Toronto, press Brendan the world of the Irish wondertale and introduction to the study of fairy tales it calls these stories wonder-tales. What is it? What is an Irish Wonder tail? But these are our Epix MAA. Let Legend maker Legends and mythology Ares mythology essentially of which there is an enormous range and scope in many cases only now being brought to to White audiences. This happens to be an introduction to the study of fairy tales by Elliot Moss goes Junior g o s e University of Toronto, press for adults and children in any valuable introduction. I'm leaving it is introducing that Shakira of Irish history. So forgotten really in The Mists of antiquity to two entirely new audiences aleco's his workers as been enormously successful and is extremely interesting Rewritten or I will take another color right now. Good afternoon. We're waiting for your question to represent the interests of those people who enjoy snakes. I'm wondering if your guests could comment on the story about Saint Patrick reading Ireland if it's snakes and what the origins of that story are and I'll hang up and listen. It's it's one of the very earliest Legends associated with Saint Patrick and was associated with I think if my memory serves me right with it at one of those strange events again, which one of the earliest stories recorded about him. That's at the time of his attempted to conversion Northeast announcement of his mission to the high king of Ireland at the time as and Patrick is is reputed to have carrying his staff as a bishop in one hand of making a point with this point. It's tough to the point where it went through the foot of the king standing beside him and the King raise no objection because he thought that this transfixion by the staff was part of the initiation process into Christianity and to Patrick's consternation, of course, he discovered what he had done and Immediately as the stories has miraculously healed the foot that have been pierced by his is Bishop says stuff and its associated with that time. They they they contribution of Patrick to the comfort of life in Ireland by banishing from that land all venomous creatures as the story says all steaks and certainly there seems to be some evidence of the fact that one cannot find in the island of Ireland anything resembling a snake. I I I I don't know whether you hold a particular breed for snake lovers, but then there is that we do have some in the zoo Saturday in Dublin with you so they won't be totally deprived of your are your interests while visiting us, but we don't have any snakes in the countryside of other colors waiting for questions with Brendan short all our guests in the studio and we'll take the next caller right now. Good afternoon. We're listening. Good afternoon. I'm trying to program thoroughly. I don't have any questions. I just had a comment. I want you to know that I have a little Irish ancestry to me and I appreciate what culture. Ways to Ireland as far back as John Field in the early 19th century and Michael Kelly who was a cohort of Mozart's and appeared in the Premier performance of the north to defeat the Irish have done a great deal and I'm proud that and I want you to know that a lot of a lot of the people in the side of the water really or attitude. That's a very knowledgeable, too because that many people would not associate excellence in classical music with Ireland and then the names you mentioned are ones that are really prominent in the history of European music of those days as a most perceptive, All right, we'll take another question. Good afternoon Brenda short always listening for your question. I am half Irish. My name is June 8th. My father's ancestors having come from County Cork many years ago. I just want to say that I'm very impressed by Brendan a wealth of vision wealth of knowledge about all the all the many subjects of come up. But especially about his eloquence of expression and impressed by the eloquence of expression of the Irish people in general and I wondered if Brandon would like to come in from the tradition of poetry in that country. And yes, the poetic tradition in Arden goes back right to the beginnings of of recorded at time in Ireland. There. There is an enormous wealth of what is traditional is I think it is can be set with continued right up to the present day at one of the features. For example of Modern Irish literary life has been a Resurgence of interest in in poetry in the Gaelic language in the Resident a well-established School of poetry in Ireland now writing entirely in Gaelic but Island also, it has produced some of the major writers of poetry in the English language of this set another the current generation names like Seamus Heaney, for example, who is known worldwide for the Excellence of his poetry, but there are many other major and Poets with widespread reputations now from Ireland names, like for example, John montagu Thomas Kinsler and Salon some of whom we in the Irish American cultural Institute have been proud to to assist in one way or another particularly through Are are literary awards, which we represent annually in Ireland. It's true that the tradition is one of the most strongly rooted in our history and then many of the Modern Irish poets, for example in English how much of their imagery and their use of language in some cases even unwittingly from the Irish language origins of their own race and they are Timeless tradition which is and which is now out there doing through English. It's about 8 minutes before 1 and we'll take the next caller. Good afternoon Brenda this listing for your question. Hi Brendan, I love your Irish brogue. And I wish I could speak at the way you do. I'm full-blooded Irish myself, but I have no broke but why do we are Irish? Have to be funny everybody thinks you're Irish be funny. There are many drawer Irishman, but have no more sense of humor than a pig. And it always has amused me that I'm expected to be funny because I'm Irish. Hang up and listen to your comment. Why don't I don't have time to think about found the answer or not, but I don't know what to say to that and perhaps it's it's better to be that people have that anticipation of us and that they might have done some others that they might have I suppose but it certainly true. I think it's in some way that reflects a a a a head-start which we already having the sense that we do a generator degree of affection and the Goodwill, I think they did their the regrettable thing is so often that we don't capitalize on that Goodwill letter is available for us and for our own country and sometimes and I have to admit that we we we can tend to confirm some of the worst stereotypes to do exist about us, but I think there's an X Change and I've changed enormously and I think that there is no right across this nation and uncertainties about the Western World a much more informed understanding of about the realities of our civilization in the something of its contribution to 22 history and of its present a cultural achievement, but don't you suppose your oral tradition their Brendan isn't extremely Borden park because obviously some of these long tails told with the boys have to have some humorous twists and turns on occasion to keep the listener going about that because it's substantially organizations are not entirely because there has been writing in in Ireland right back to the 6th 7th century and an enormous wealth of writing at a time when your Princeton's was going through the Dark Ages. There was why I work a great literary Excellence being produced in Ireland, but so many people of course they'd the tradition has been an oral one with Stories being told around the fire and inevitably they they they do humorous has always had a head start and so far is that the Irish love a good story while told as much as anybody else will take another color. Good afternoon. We're listening for your question. I'm enjoying a program very much and I'm sort of a history buff in a few years ago. I did visit Ireland and I was curious if you know the king is buried in the castle is a shell or cancel. It was a tomb and it was looked like it had been probably hand made out of cement and it was a definite hand of a king one of these years was gone, but you can see part of the crown. Do you have any idea who that is? And if not where I could find I've looked at several books in the library. And can I find who is buried there? I think your other Crips as well. And when you answer that then I do have another question. I'd like to ask if there's time I'm not sure which part of the Rock of Cashel you're referring to but they do you probably know of Comics Chapel there which goes Ribbit Raitt stayed at Comic-Con c o r n a c is the name of the king of Ireland to which chemi I think you're deciding there, Probably about the TARDIS. Truth or Dare and I don't know if there's anything specific would certainly be able to find him in some of the some of the directories and some of the guidebooks to contain some literature. Although most of it is probably Legend. All right in your second question. fight in Ireland is this I think as the Bible says A house divided against itself cannot stand and I think that's true of a Nation. I don't know about that has been set off him. But I I I I don't know whether this is Sim is based. In fact what it has been said of Kadafi shark response. Go ahead with your question baby iguana in for the Saint Patrick's day riddle. Why did the snakes leave Ireland? Well, I like and a variety of answers that had taken goes first. Why would they stay? Good, that's good. Alright Brandon commercial for the Institute. Once again, you've mentioned some addresses and phone numbers, but why not give it out again? Yes. We haven't seen Paul the national office of the artist American cultural Institute witches is as a membership organization locations throughout the 50 states and we are offices are located on the campus of the College of Saint Thomas. I'm mailing address is 683 Osceola Avenue and save Minnesota 55105 and that we engage in a wide variety of programs for our members and four others designed to develop their understanding of Ireland under the Heritage which state treasurer and when they belong to a contribute in some way to add a cultural development of modern Arland and we're we're always have to go to people ways to become associated with it with us in that work on to become members of Art Institute. And for a small fee people can join as members throughout the nation and I think that those who do because Members have the intense satisfaction of a feeling that they are contributing in a real way to the development of a genuine awareness of the other realities and the richest of the civilization which state treasurer the executive director that Institute is Brendan short all the man who you've been listening to for the past 55 minutes or so. You're a good sport. Thank you for coming in and taking these many diverse questions about Ireland in the connection with the United States Brendan short-haul. You want to talk to you for just a moment about the weather situation and we also want to have a bit of information about the temperatures to of in the Twin Cities 39 degrees at Duluth 38 in Rochester 36 in International Falls. It's 36 St. Cloud cloudy and 37 in Fairmount 41 and Worthington 39 and in Mankato 41° in the Redwood Falls vicinity 40° at Marshall 38 in Alexandria 34 in Elliott's 39 at Grand Rapids 3936 degrees in the Grand Marais. At the midgie 42° in the lacrosse facility 40° at Grand Forks 33 in Mason City 44 in Haughton, 42° all of those reporting stations indicating a cloudy sky at the moment and that brings us to the point of the winter storm. Watch that is in effect for South and 4 East the East portion of Minnesota for tonight forecast information specifically for Minnesota a winter storm watch for the south and east on Tuesday this afternoon cloudy skies were cast good chance of rain and wet snow is forecast for the Southwest part of the stay the high will range from the mid-thirties to the low forties this afternoon tonight cloudy with rain or snow developing in the South the low from the mid-20s northwest of the mid-30s in the south on Tuesday wet snow is forecast to spread into the Northeast part of Minnesota and become windy across the state rain may be mixed with snow in the Southeast highest tomorrow will be in the 30-degree range winter storm watch in effect for Tuesday for the Twin Cities this afternoon to cloudy sky The high around 40 That's midday for today. Thanks to Joe. Joncas and David sleep or technical Direction. This is Dan Olson reporting. Lab Associated Press radio news, but the first we want to tell you that the Minnesota Legislature obviously rushing to try to adjourn before tomorrow presumably that's the new deadline as we've been hearing this morning and I will have a live report on that in just a moment. This is ksjn 1330 Minneapolis-Saint Paul. The time is 1 and we'll be hearing from George after the news.