U.S. Senate Field Hearing and High Sulfur Coal Export Conference: Session 2 - High Sulfur Coal from the Perspective of Foreign Government Officials

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Proceedings of the United States Senate Field Hearing and High Sulfur Coal Export Conference held June 8–9, 1981, at Southern Illinois University Carbondale. One of the central concerns confronting the hearing was “Factors Affecting the International Utilization of High Sulfur Coal.” More specifically, the committee addressed itself to “developing international markets and marketing mechanisms for America’s coal, evaluating the domestic potential for American coal production and exports, and Illinois coal’s potential as an emergency fuel in the event of an international energy shortfall.” Coal experts from American industry, labor officials, state and national government leaders, and dignitaries from Europe and the Far East gathered to discuss this important global issue. This program is on the topic of “High Sulfur Coal from the Perspective of Foreign Government Officials,” one of a several items addressed at conference. Panel discussions were moderated by United States Senator Charles Percy, United States Representative Paul Simon, and John Castle, Director of the Illinois Department of Commerce and Community Affairs.

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I'm at the fairs are today's Witnesses session to examine myself a call from the perspective of foreign government. Officials. We Begin China May well prove to be one of the best customers for Illinois coal exports from for Spain. We have dr. German or her Mando Ming like well as the industry and energy at essay for the Spanish Embassy in Washington will read the statement prepared by mr. Jose at Sierra Lopez. It was unable to attend he is on leave from the Spanish nuclear energy agency where you headed the division of Isotopes. Next is Mister bong Soo Lee assistant minister in the ministry of energy and resources of the Republic of Korea world is becoming increasingly important part of Korea is energy program, and I had the pleasure to meet with them in Korea just two months ago the witnesses fromthermistor will MGM Daniels The director of the North American delegates of a t i c the French call importing company and mr. John full Han no representing sherbondy's Van Nuys de France America's coal mining company Francis coal mining company. Mr. Akira kinoshita, the deputy director of the fuel Department of the electric power development company will represent Japan. He was educated the law school at Waseda University like your neighbors in the orange. Japan is turning toward coil to replace oil imports for her energy needs. Why don't you start out? Thank you very much. Letting us to express our views. I'll minister of economy Affairs just honorable. Just a chance will make his statement on behalf of the country the Republic of China. Thank you. Mister chairman It is indeed a great pressure for us to attend this hearing to prevent. I love you on the highest offer code for export from the United States. Adequate energy Supply is indispensable to the Social and economic development of a Nation. The economy of Republic of China has been growing very fast. During the last two decades at a rate averaging more than 9% annually. Despite the diversity in Princess of international economic slowdown skyrocketing oil prices. Roc Straits of economic growth in 1980 still we are respectable 6.7% in real terms as against 0.3% for industrial countries and 4.1% for Less developed countries. The country's per capita income will be about $2,500 US Dollars this year in 1981. The worldwide two-way trade for our country reached around 40 beanie US dollars in 1980. increase of about 8.8% over 1979 The United States is by far our largest trading partner. Total trade between Roc and United States where probably reach 14 billion dollars in 1981. For next 10 years the aggregate the total between the two countries is estimated at 250 billion US dollars. And I predict eventually Corps will be the one of the largest export Commodities from United States to the Republic of China. We are poor in indigenous indigenous energy resources. We need an increasing quantities of imported energy to sustain its economy gross. presently the demand of total energy amounts to 35 million tons of oil equivalent and 86% of it is imported. conservative estimate of the mangroves where approximately 10% annually How are policy course for vigorous efforts for energy conservation? strengthening backs Broiler exploration and exploitation of indigenous energy and a diversify in the kinds and the sources of energy Imports. So as to reduce the realities of petroleum, and to alleviate the impact of the possible shortage of oil supply on economy. Petroleum products either yeast used to be our principal imported energy. Since a few years ago. We build we have built no more or if I have two power plants. Any new power plants will be either cold or nuclear. Call we're also be utilized in industrial plants wherever possible. Call Randy uranium parts are expected to increase very rapidly. Import of coal is expected to increase by 16% Annually for import of oil. We're only about 5% as of the end of May 1981 Hey Ram, power system has the total installed capacity of 10000 megawatts of which is hydro 5400 megawatt oil. 980 megawatt score and 2000 megawatts nuclear this year did 1981 power needs 3 million tons of coal. our long-range power development program horse for a total installed capacity of 3000 Cynthia 3,600 megawatt buy a 1995 4600 megawatt will be a hydro. Someone can be a megawatt will be order. 12250 megawatt 6% of the total will be cold and and is 13000. Megawatt 9% will be Nuclear by then by 1995 demand up call for power. We're beaster day 1 million tons. The requirement of steer steamco for the existing and the new Coal Fire units. Is projected was due considerations given to the quality and availability very important availability of coal. the characteristics of generating facilities of system operation in Sioux Falls Provisions for a transportation loss of 4% of the total consumption and the stock for maintaining at 5 months inventory. I also included in the projection. The demand of steam call for Industries, where be considerable or so much less than 4 power. Some major energy uses such as cement. Are now being required. Encouraged to change from oil to Coal as an energy source, according to our projection the to do steam called Amanda for industry. In the year 1995 where be is 11.4 million tons. Virtually the total demand of 42.4 million times for power and Industrial combined where have to be imported? the importation of such a vast quantity of solid fuel is that matter which needs our greatest attention and most careful planning? The first person to rent in which is a sources of coal for imports. At least in the foreseeable future. Only a few countries in the world are able to export coal in considerable quantities. As far as we are concerned. except for some possible diversify suppliers in the world Do United States? Where be you nor probability? KY power company, I would love just to call you then intends to purchase call either on the basis of long-term contract or in the form of joint venture and development of Carmine's in foreign countries. So as to ensure equality and a surprise equally important are the long distance Transportation or land and the Sea and the handling of cold at the ports of loading and unloading. type our plans to build a major portion I've called freak required for all ocean transportation. If first breed of 3. Vessels of 125000 be to attend class and the six classes of 63008 weapon Class Postal carriers have been contracted to be built in Taiwan and will be made available by 1984-1985. Moore coal carriers will be built in accordance with future oil Accord requirements unloading facilities in Taiwan under construction or being planned to handle imported to call. I stay away is densely populated. Air Pollution Control is bonded to be more in the more Street. In view of the limited availability of loose off of Cole and Ustick system addition of coal-fired units to the power system would be considered the for power generation. How are new power plants will be designed with the flexibility of firing branded call? According to preliminary the Laboratory test for Blended Louis off of coal from Western States sources and the street person highest sophical from Eastern states. In proper proportion the quality of such branded Cole could meet the current specifications for imported to steam cold. Higher power has to import large quantities of steam coal for power generation and has been actively seeking for cold sauces. up-to-date a total of 92 million metric tons for 1981 to 1995 has been contacted and their total of 70 million metric tons for the same. Is there and the negotiation? Industrial is also looking for career resources. For the next 15 years, the aggregate total of imported coal is estimated at 350 million tons. colorware comprise 32% of our total energy It is apparent. Cold water become extremely important to our economy. As I have mentioned above the United States in general and Illinois in particular will be our most important source of supply. Of course. I hope the volume formation you suck have to you understanding to call the florist in Carle Place in the economy of the Republic of China. Thank you very much very much. Appreciate that is in Spain Barcelona Spain. I would like to present the point of view of my County about the Spanish demand of esteem cold and they're all important to call will play to meet this demand. I appreciate your kind invitation to me and to mr. Sierra to be here today. But as you know, mr. Sierra has been retained in Spain by Inskip. I will, however, he has prepared a statement that I will be sent in and of Egypt form in the interest of time. Spain with a population of 37 million inheritance and energy consumption of 78 million. Btu per passenger rear is very far away from self-sufficiency because of the important role played by oil. Show that our oil trade balance show to deficit of 11 billion dollars in 1990 about 6% of our gross industrial product disease too heavy a load for our economy. In Spain just like you must County school was the measure the measure Industrial Development Company, especially around the forties with increasing call you during the process were smart. They speak in Spain than in other European nations. And therefore is no other continue to accept Italy as dependent as a Spanish. Kohl's participation in primary energy demand came down to 16% in 1978 from 74% in 1950, even though energy demand more than double. However the adjustment to the impact of the energy crisis of 1973 in 1979 gateway to recovery of the coal sector and coal production increased from 14 million metric tons in 1975 to 27 million metric tons in 1980. Call share of Total Primary energy consumption in 1980 was 20.7% But the volume was 64.6% and 10.8% only. The Spanish energy problem is like you must Western Nations how to switch from oil to a tentative energy sources. The current national energy plan for sees the toilet will not even account for 50% of the total primary energy is required during 1987. The plan intends to develop a white nuclear power plant construction problem, utilized existing hydraulic resources to a maximum and increase National energy production and call and gas consumption. In the measure measure possible this way. It is expected that of the total 3.7 quarts to be required in 1995. Call Will Supply 23% oil 49% nuclear power 11% Hydro 10% and gas 7% structure of primary energy sources such as the one indicated call for an extensive use of a sinkhole which will be influenced by the following factors oil scarcity and spice changes of the time required to put nuclear power plants in service. The County's energy needs and the share of the market that you can take in accordance with its price as compared with the price of oil. Spain's future to think of demand will basically come from three sectors with their City production industry and residential commercial. The current thermal power plant construction program is aimed division of almost 7007000 megawatts Decay 8N the conversion from oil to cool off a bit more than 2000 megawatts currently installed. Show call would be used to generate 7300 megawatts in 1983 and 12300 megawatts in 1987. English actor which includes an ongoing problem for a Convention of the cement industry will use about 2.7 million metric tons of cold from 1982. Residential commercial sectors dreaming of a bit more than 1 million metric tons of coal, and they and is expected to use increasing amounts in the future. But most of the coal used by the sector will come from domestic sources. To meet the short and medium-term needs of a steamer metallurgical coal the Spanish gold production plan 6 to increase production from 15 4 million tons of coal equivalent in 1980 to 20.6 million tons of coal equivalent in 1987, but most of the additional production will be made public night. Did Jesus have nothing else however there for imports of a steam coal will increase substantially, although the exact amount of imported yearly will depend on the factors that can mention before. Indian Nation sector in Porto ercole will either Supply power plants that are being built for burning it or will compensate for deficiencies in quality or quantity quantity implants burning domestic call about 70% of assisting 7th maneuvered Factory in Flames will switch from oil compared to call because of their location or the Flames will burn coal from mines in their head. Nicole's import policy East based or takes into account dissertation character and impact of the shift from oil to call International economy. And it pays attention to threaten transportation and to diversification of supply. We are also paying a lot of attention to security of Supply. So we are seeking for opportunities to buy equities Road and to link our supply to long-term contracts or the one of her one of our main concern is that Austrian turn Transportation because of scale economy. We think that very weak call you have to use it. Show we are preparing reports in the south in the north and in the south east of Spain that will be ready in 1994 to take care and to care word ships from 125000 tons to 150,000 tonnes that weight. Did she show me some the origin of imported call will depend on the distance to call Precision counties that their own expert abilities the availability of all things paid in the road just a price increase of a Spanish demand as well as supplies security All Things Considered up to 1994. We will depend on the United States from 63% of our call supplies. Then the percentage will be reduced to 50 to 40% in favor of other counties like a stray Leah Canada South Africa Poland Soviet Union china-and-colombia. Specification skaf being set up for coal to be used by the cement industry and I mentioned especially the cement industry because of your interesting high-sulfur coal. I can tell you that the maximum amount of sulfur in coal for the cement industry is 2.5% Thank you very much. And we're happy to have you representing the Republic of Korea. It is a great pleasure for me to have this opportunity today in this house off of coal exports Senate hearing and the conference as a representative of the Republic of Korea. Within the limited time available. I would like to limit my presentation it mainly to the prospector for height of a car import to Korea in 1980 total consumption of energy Emoji 238 million tons of oil equivalent to 2% and answer start 26% firewood nuclear Hydro liquefied petroleum gas and the petunia score make up the balance. By 1986 the energy consumption is expected to increase to 5959 million TOA. Which this increase the configuration of energy Supply sources will change significantly petroleum dependencies expected to decline Magdalene from the current 62% to 48% due to Rising substitution of alternative resources such as coal gas and the nuclear energy. Demand for party expected to increase to 43 million metric tons in 1986 from the 1981 level of the consumption of a 30 30 million. How much is 30 million tons of coal consumed at present 22 million ton is anthracite and more than 90% of its requirement is met by domestic product. The demand for Alice Alice anthracite for the next five years is expected to increase only at a moderate rate. More than two-thirds of this 13 million ton increase in demand for call in the next 5 years is attributable to a greater use of bituminous Coal Valley in the fusible power generation, and it's a cement Manufacturing. Phone number it is forecasted that the steam Co requirement alone in the year 1991 will reach somewhere around 12 million chance. At the present time we have a two coal-fired plant project on the construction. Each project has to 500 MegaMart plans boost projects are to be operational by the middle of 1980s. We have already signed contracts with companies from Australia and Canada to supply 4 million tons of coal per year. Put an additional 1 million times. We are now negotiating with several forms from Australia Canada and the United States. The future outlook for the demand for steam Forest Drive from Boise to construction it with Nucor plans and the conversion of existing plants price of student shooting whole oil. However, did non-availability bituminous coal in Korea. The import of all required amount of steam call Reliance must be placed on the importance of steam Pole from various countries in Europe was certainly including the United States in the very near future. However, I would like to express someone with the probable various women and counter by impact by importing u.s. Pole. Particularly High self-esteem call. The Environmental Protection regulation in Creer present to imposes a regulation that requires the emission level of yourself sulfur oxides to be below 1800 PPM. Second currently the price of US polo is not competitive in Korean market in 1981 for his test call from Australia. And Canada is being negotiated at about $50 per ton and 4B basis. The price of a US court is about $7 higher per ton in addition to just hire course longest shipping. Just text with the race Transportation cost by about $3 / 10. food we're considering at this time the implications of her entering into any long-term contracts involving the importing arrears call. This is should you mail it to the possibility that u.s. Ports could not adequately facilitate the increase to call movement from u.s. To Korea. Even after considering these possible problems with the importing us call. I still maintain at Mystic views concerning the utilization of arrest called in Korea than your future. First I believe that there is every possibility over utilizing height of a colon career. This can be attributed by either Lennon quotes of a difference of a contest with us call or by relaxing the sort of accident Mission regulation in the near future will study the possibility of relaxing regulations particularly on the power generation plant located in the east coast resorts. Second ozone the price of a whisker he's still very high in the Korean market as I've mentioned the capital in u.s. Code prices and other competing code prices in Norway. This is due to the rapid increase in prices Bobo's Australian and Canadian call most specifically the US coal prices. You were approximately 30% higher than Australia Australian and the Canadian code in Nigeria 79. Currently, the price differential has been reduced to 2 less than 40% Korea has been relying on Australia and Canada for importing call for diversifying the social costs apply for a variety of reasons these include uncertainty over the delivery caused by the labor strikes and the congestion in post, Australia and Canada. U.s. Counterparts become more aggressive in expanding markets and in maintaining a negotiation spray in quotation. That is I firmly believe that the recent amber possibility of opening a new core Market in Korean. Today's conference certainly is a material proof of a search such an effort by the United States. I'm at what's a note as similar effort exerted by the governor's office of a toy western states in proposing a joint study Finance to buy potential exporters and importers in order to explore the possibilities of promoting the use of Western States called in the forest. The Korean government is in full support such a proposal and has decided in principle to contribute our share of the research fund. We are equally interested in the future Prospect of importing us height of a call and will be an active participant to an associate suggestions that ensure a stable supply of a call at a reasonable price in El Paso with the world. Thank you saying for friends or sharing your time with mr. What we doing, are you both testifying proceed, please? Thank you. Mr. Chairman. Thank you very much for having called once more from my Association for delivering a testimony. on behalf of friends this time a dad exploring the use of American high-sulfur coal. But Senator since you already have made another friend, I am immediately adding, Illinois call in particular. Before touching the subject. I would like to give some general indications regarding the consumption of gold in France and the Imports. Are there future French government? I mean the one France shall have at the end of the current month will probably lay a greater emphasis on the use of coal and Iago ringworm. My indications are based on the program of the Socialist Party which heretofore has set an objective by 90 90 of a total consumption of 65 million thumbs to be supplied by domestic production of 30 million times and 35 of imports. You want to remember that in Baltimore on April 28th, when testifying before the Foreign Relations subcommittee on International Economic Policy the figures I gave Senator Charles Mathias respectively 50 million tons of consumption with the national production of 10 to 15 & Imports of 35 to 40 million times the end of this is that played on a greater national production was Imports more last remaining at today's level. I was as requested by you. I am now giving you details regarding High sofa cold. What is high self esteem code for France? The sofa content of the French domesticos being maximum 1% You will not be surprised to hear that for the French and uses high. Sofoco is any cool 7000 BTU exceeding 1.8% sulfur which means 3.3 pounds of silver per 1 million. Btu. This is more or less the present yardstick forever in the number of limited cases. The ceiling is being relaxed. But only on the basis of a BTU related content in OKC about about the 2% level for 12000 BTU, which is a gain the 3.3 pounds of silver per million. Btu. What is the today's situation in the utilities? No scrubbers are installed. They only have Ash precipitators. The utilities are they are very strictly to the 1.8 ceiling of those two engines regulations. Strangely enough. Do not exist. The utilities are there for anyway, buying Under self-discipline constraint. For 1981 we have today have about 7 million thumbs, but from the USA. I simply hope we shall manage to ship them but I won't dwell on this delicate subject, which I already touched on previous occasions and we shall discuss some more occasions to come. regarding cement Mills General Industry and urban Heating The record these consumers are looking for is 1.5 to 8 1.8% But some of them are already asking for itself account and as low as 1% for technical reasons. For 1981 we have about 1 million tons of coal under contract from the USA for this type of cleat clients. What about the future? Regarding the utilities no changes expected in the basic requirements or whatever. We are currently looking into the possibility of buying mixes. I would not really call them blends of high and low self Ackles provided the volatile content of each component does not differ by more than 2 to sweep sent. These requirements is of great importance since a larger difference of all hotels in the mix, which is not strictly how much a nurse make create serious conversions problems. We are presently studying such possibilities out of New Orleans, but it must be realize that such a mix with certainly not have the homogeneity of an East Coast blend. Regarding cement Mills. We do not expect any change in Attitude for the time being. However in September this September next some of them may turn to some do some higher self or go up to 2.32% 5% This is an important Evolution and are we expecting more news about their intentions? Then we have the General Industry free days bad combustion. So far. Not much has been done on the subject was today's availability of French and phone calls with a low self accountant. However will make already marketed high temperature fluidized bed boiler but in France as well as elsewhere in the world do I know if weed has bad boy Latino operation with low temperatures? Regarding synfuels the top limit of cell phone will be much higher than a number of projects under consideration. I regret to say that regarding methanol plants are we friends or more specifically in the USA to be built by French interests, the minister of Industry had no information to provide the last days that evaluation still being carried out for the future of Transportation fuels just to end my last minute. I would like to go through two comments made by. Dr. Lansky first album, maybe someone chauvinistic, but he mentioned one boards one Newport being developed in Europe. I would like to add that sweet Newports are being developed in France for ships of hundred and twenty hundred and fifty or even to have $1,000 bills will be ready. Two years and I would like also to support or Miss doctor Lansky's remarks regarding a total Respect by the US government of contractual engagements bait biotic with or American suppliers to the benefit of a French consumers. Thank you very much. Ticketmaster shut up German as my friend William Daniel Caesar from the attic has given you the planet French call conception occurs the next few years and remainder marks about so using friends of Pacific War. I feel free to make some freelance remarks on the subject first. It would be an error to believe that suspension just to your least problem or general is in District European industry will use the steam controller with more sulfur content than the United States 2% sulfur content will be in the future like in the United States is a generally accepted limit for ground polishing reasons. Show me the stories like the Simmons will use core with some higher sulfur content in some Polish in sensitive areas. My second try much is that it would be a nonsense to believe that pie server core will not developed. I would like here to tell you a French story United 6556 almond Circle boss reserve of natural gas in the southwest of France near the small town of lack. Lost this gas has a composition with 70% of methane, which is not bad but 15% of sulfur hydrogen. And every everyone sort that it wasn't suitable for use because of the pollution because of the corrosion and Cetera one year after the S&P adopted the old Cloud Server converter process in such a way that not only around 7.5 billions of cubic met your husband sword from 7:57 to today, but around 1.7 to 1.8 million tons of surfer by you as a byproduct have met her friends to mention of a producer in Europe. Zuki admin technology and it's my firm belief that this is also the key for High Surf record, two main ways in my opinion seem to be open or adjusted for inflation of the core on the side weave transformation off Gore into a more Carol Fick fuel or adjusted for inflation at the boiler. At the other end of the chain. Concerning the first process are you at like two side the Swedish Chicago jail system for instance as a new line of research concerning the last process pictures of the Argonne National Laboratory site, one of them offers the promise of a brand new technology Halloween to burn core with a 3.5 with sensor for Content Resort environmental risk. The first idea I would like to express is about the kind of complementary DNA which complementarity which exists between High Surfer high BTU call of the Midwest and Central areas with low sulfur orbital call of the Westin seen. It seems to me that buy pairings exploitation transportation of Boss type of gourd plants and their two position of sulfur content can be obtained in most instances. How to do is probably one of the most interesting question to ask. Thank you very much for your attention. Very kindly and I finally sheet pan. Thank you again Mister chairman. Are possible and I would like to confirm a cold could provide the trigger to restore the economy can be counted and surprised to the field and go seek gives free and competitive option which came from the availability or so many types of surprise and abandon to resource. I didn't option should be made by a ball through the biggest technological innovation at all stage of the cold chain system. I heard Japan needs one of the most active countries in seeking chunariya rice International agreement and principle for sifting from oil to call special consideration for a balanced approach which includes nuclear Parliament to overcome its particular serious in a distillation. The major steam call using the future of Japan is projected to be next Thursday generation countries, which is your forecast you consume more than 80% of all 2018 Cobalt 1990. Best mates of cold requirement in the Arctic Market Chara stronger than friends by a Samsung's about the Rachel gloss over electricity demand and expansion of nuclear power in this production electricity does co2 increase more rest after age of economic growth even taking into account progress energy conservation and the country transformation of Industry structures. 4.5% is taken between 90 and 2 year 2062 1.1. inuclearapp already praised a substantial role in electricity generation However, there are several predictions as to whether it is possible to install all this past year for the future. Exxon forecast 37g go out the Institute of energy comic 36 gigawatt and US agency collects blood test Falls 20 Gigabytes. And also ask some Focus 7575 i c e from 54 gigabyte to 68 count from 90 to go back to write. How do I giggle watch respiratory for the year 2000? On the Assumption love City 6 Gigabytes for 1990 and 70 G watch for the year 2000 in this pic jr. Park capacity. Japan's needfor speed call would be a DC Medical calculated to be 89 million Tom colicchio range for a 1990 and 192 million call Tiki Bar in Florida the year 2000 including requirement for Agri Industries. Dan Japan will have to import 171 million Tom colicchio rainfall 1990 and 276 million tone call to give our end for the year 2018 clothing make a call. I'll be the sticker requirements for a 14 female or male counselor in Disney figures. Of course import export trade Regional parent will be decided by factors such as economic security office supplies condition of infrastructure viability of competent witness competitiveness a government intervention and softball. La free one side of the total length of the government would depend upon the United States in this sentence. It is no doubt very urgent to set up an overall scheme for transaction between the two countries. Adiprene has been regarded as the most advanced country in developing environmental control. The important thing is most of the environmental risks from called use can be resolved by technological control. On the other hand each incremental reduction of omission in cricket cost. Socks controller cost estimated at $16 Spartan calls for a 100 PPM admission and $18 for 50 PPM a mission. Is picturing the pace of America Visa? Hi yourself a Content Joe Maddon around the three percent is needed the Coast Jam discreetly because you're ridiculously must be prepared to meet existing environmental requirements in this case would be approximately at US Dollars pop song. Amberen for rent a highway bridge over the counter measures differ by countries because of a geographical climatic industrial stock options. Almost all local government have invented three independent re-enacted Pollution Control Ordinance, which are much more stringent compared with a National Standard. The important thing is not you consider a little fling the standard and regulation but you know becomes environmental problem slow technological Improvement, you know that a 50 radiological object evinces based on public acceptance. In the case of a cold from goodnight Basin to Japan we can be story point out the advantage of electoral stable low cost for Inland water transportation as well as a high BTU content against the disadvantage of high ocean Transportation cost and high sulfur content in comparison to rest and call. In particular, I will believe it is important to bring up by a viable option and I'll talk to you soon in order to fulfil. Function or Market competition. The size of Cipro the essential required to increase the ergonomics of scale. You know, that's over County handicap or Maritime transportation. If you cannot tell which can accept more than 100 from the gods close to Japan would be greatly increased. In addition more attention should be paid to the characteristic of this Supply region in Toronto stability or transportation system based on an independent and the competitive system which may contribute to an emergency case and also did a stoplight system which involve various sources in this region as well as I've walked away transport. Enterprise would be noted. We could incorporate the rest of your statement in the record and I would like to point out how these three suggestions you've made to be a colon creating a cool information system relating to Illinois bass to give more information about quality production and transportation a feasibility study to conduct a large scale Coal stock piles at the lower end of the Mississippi River and the increasing the capacity of the Panama Canal. Three very valuable suggestions me appreciate that. Thank you very very much indeed. Would you be able to because all through the testimony has been given has been a question of reliability. Do you sense a new spirit in this country toward coal exports now the stronger Spirit than you've seen for. This is the reason to hope that we have turned the tide and I ready to aggressively compete with anyone in the world that for your cold import business. You mean reliability of u.s. Cold Supply? Yes, and whether you sense a new spirit in this country to really see reach out and aggressively say we can and will meet your increasingly needs. We have had experience with your country and we depend a lot of scenes from United States such a screen for instance the next importance in which we were even pot from United States states where the energy And do we have confidence in United States to the supply of energy in the future? So we have no doubt that we were increase trade relations with United States in the supply of two most important Commodities, which is food and energy. Thank you. That's very reassuring statement Domingo as I wonder if you could comment on whether or not you see a great deal of Promise ahead for using a high-sulfur coal when it's blended with lower shelf or calls from Western or Eastern states rinsed is blending it with my son-in-law's state of West Virginia. Can you speak about the possibilities which exists for buying high sulfur a low sulfur blend? Otherwise, I'm just offering a proposition that maybe we can all keep it in One Man's family. Well, you know, I'll send him a bill for this color conference. You know that the cold trait is made of blending processes. We have been for many years importance of mythological American coal made of many many different kinds of cool. And so far we have had to know kind of problems from this point of view. So I understand that there would be no trouble on blending you are with calls from other Origins. No problem principal. The problem may be a problem of how to handle this operation and what the measure this operation could be a complicating factor in our trade with the United States. I am nothing to do with the position to command to March about the spine butter. My feeling is that it depends on the American suppliers of our intentions are not to deal with a small supply of side of me. But to deal with entities with corporations able to supply a big share of the amount of cold that we need from this County then is this big suppliers able to handle Illinois along with call from alterations then and if the final product is a competitive price and if the final products can be the final product can be whole country Hunter ships unreliable. Thank you very much. Mr. Lee. Do you have any doubt that if this country just makes an absolute commitment. We are going to be a reliable coal supplier that if you depended a phone call from the United States and Korea that we would fulfill your needs and never let you down. Yes in principle yet. I think you can trust yours although in our past experience not in connection with the opportunist core. But will you answer a call from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania? And I must say that we had a bit of trouble in getting the delivery of right kind of pole at the right moment. And I would hope that at this kind of experience in the future. I would like also to leave the record open so that if any of you would like to come in for the record on any of the questions, I have asked the panel, please be free free to do so and just remember the staff know that you will be submitting an answer for the record Daniels. Could you comment on the possibilities that friends have for additional deep water ports? How would you pay for those ports? And when would you expect such force to be completed? If you are planning on increasing your import capacity? Party by the government or conjunction of governmental effort and local a photo of the local Port Authorities and Sweden Newports coming on stream 1 Engine cake, which by the end of 80s we will be able to accommodate ships of up to 200,000 tonnes that weight and all the port is specially being built North for ships of hundred and twenty thousand times that way to supply to you go find units power units and the Third Ward is a force which is in fact part of my say which is being upgraded asari know if we'll be ready at the end of next year and if possible is being upgraded and we'll be ready by the end of next year for shipt $120,000. Not to forget that are we already have existing facilities for ships up 250 and $200,000 at the harbor and first so we say that France and Gentiles are pretty well geared under is getting ready for larger ships. Thank you, very kindly because your country has such a conscious of ecology and you've done a great deal of work in that area. Is it could you tell me what the United States government can do weave works together. So cooperatively in so many areas. What can we do to help you develop an Applied Technologies that would enable you to burn more high-sulfur coal for cement production power generation and other industrial uses. If I think you're fortunate we are we have a lot of experience in the field of anti-pollution technological development. So in this field, we don't have much more effective and positive International cooperation between the u.s. And Japan but program needs are the attitude of our US Government Ivy call CCRI understand the difference of economic structures between the Japan and us but it seems that our US Government most sold match actively involved in such kind of development activities. I think it's one of the uncertainty which I feed Touch case. I mean a global expansion of a cold use I balding a large-scale infrastructure development. Thank you. Thank you very much. And again, I will be pleased to keep the record open for additional comments that you might like to make on all of these questions. I think this panel very very much indeed. We're particularly grateful to you for the time. You have taken to come to the state of Illinois. We hope that you enjoyed your visit here and will continue to enjoy the conference. Thank you. Subcommittee on energy nuclear proliferation and government processes. We now take a station break.

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