You're sitting in Steve's Ormond Studio a small room with folios of paper all around printers blocks on the work desk and trial series of new ideas taped to the walls. You ask Steve storm to describe in his words his artistic creativity. There's a moment of silence and then he offers a favorite anecdote referred to all of the To get leave the piece was put together in terms of concept content material process, etc. Etc. Etc. The critic good did liked the painting Matisse got really mad and stormed up to the credit and said how the hell could anybody have all that on their mind and paint a picture at the same time. So warm in his collages and drawings and prints defy easy wording. He discards the Romantic image of the artist duking it out with Urban hostility and some decaying Garrett instead. He considers himself a painter working on the Prairie and yet he can't really say is work reflects the Midwest Myself and an artist whose whose title to all sorts of things. I mean, there are Influences a number of influences it certainly are natural phenomena, but I'm part of it another there was a lot of talk about the act of the abstract expressionist to know what they were and what they were really getting into is this vast American landscape and you know somehow that the form was a perfect metaphor for that that big open landscape. But I really wouldn't put my finger on any one thing and say this is a this is the source of it. The sources is 10000 things that happened at the same time, but other art that I like other art that I don't like ideas that I'm fascinated by IDs. I'm intimidated by Landscapes that I like Landscapes that I know Landscapes that I don't know and I'm curious about skills that I have skills that I don't have essentially I'm I'm interested in in in and making pictures about more about what I'd I don't know then what I do know that learning is both frightening and exciting much of storm and stretching includes taking native simple materials and using them in totally new context in one series of new design. Movies combined some old-fashioned front as plates from books with abstract shapes the merger provokes new relationships for the viewer Norman won't categorize himself as a part of any particular painting school for him. The divisions are meaningless. One thing that happens when you get too much into the idea of qualifying is it you're speaking more to Fashion them to to substance. We have things that are called it that there was a bunch of activity around pop art and there were things that you know that a lot of things that fit that category very well and we're really fine fine works of art done by fine until the artist and they're also there's a because Because it was a fashion. They're also just a whole bunch of Meatballs that were kind of riding riding the coattails of that as a qualification. Okay, but going on. There may be a Common Thread throughout an artist work that will be able to make the audience spot that artist. Is there a way to to verbalize that quality in your own work what the Common Thread might be. I guess yeah, I guess the thing is if you're asking me very difficult question because you're asking me to. Be very objective about a subjective experience and it's hard to know the thing is that I think that I'm playing 222 fashion if I'm overly conscious of that mean. I'm not interested in developing. An idea of myself. I'm interested in being myself and I'm not talking about it. You know, let it all hang out anything is cool sort of situation, but I'm just curious about what what might happen and if it meets with the dacquoise and and excitement and that generates energy and other people in an audience then that's fine. And if it doesn't that's fine, but I do it has to be there. Is that further saying he tries never to play to an audience, but rather wants to play with those people who look at his art display with with them. Notions of what? You know, what is what is a picture? Anyway, what kind of an event is this? What separates it from the wall that is hanging on physically and just in terms of it in terms of ideas. Where does he know where does One World leave off in the other world began artist Steve sorman Fusion?