Robert B. Carleson, U.S. Commissioner of Welfare and key policy advisor on welfare, talks about the difficulties in controlling welfare fraud. Seldom has there been a policy on prosecution of welfare fraud. Additionally, the paperwork from state to state varied to such a degree that it's difficult to detect fraud. Richard Rizley, Minneapolis Chief of the Fraud Unit, talks about the amount of fraud vs. the amount they are prosecuting and the variety of types of fraud.