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Connie Goldman discusses Irish traditional music with musicians, who share both insight on its history and play various melodies.

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There must be a favorite Melody of yours because you wanted to start our conversation with it. I think it expresses the feeding first of all of their composure and second day of the player itself, and I think the Trinity typifies day Irish tradition.I wonder when you use that expression typifies the Irish tradition. I wonder how we in America understand what you're saying. I have some ideas about what Irish folk music is and I'm wondering how legitimate my thoughts are about it, but I'll probably just cover the full extent of your viewers as we go along but I can well understand why they would be an erroneous impression abroad in America has to watch his Irish traditional music because if we look back at the end of Creation. In Ireland, we find that quite a lot of commercial interests that brought about commercial hits which very often regarded as Irish traditional music and thinking of songs like when Irish eyes are smiling and the mountains of Mourne and songs of this kind but in fact, they have no connection whatever with highest tradition of Music other than expressing a sentimentality on the part of these paper. Alrighty of Irish traditional music would bathe a music in the song which in fact was playVery much at the fireside and was not chosen cultivated in that environment and handed down from generation to Generation Doll music takes many forms and is played in many different types of instruments. We have the story of which we just held and then we have dance music on so perhaps if I could just give you an idea of the contrast between this go away and the tents music we could a scarf on craft beer selection of dance music for us.Talk about the Pied Piper of Hamelin put music into a carps witness Irish traditional music which flower has a mother who has been explaining to you the variety of it and the beauty of it. I think was high pointed at one time by Ronald box. When he said that Irish music is the richest store of the music of the past the legacy of the rich past that the largest store of it still remains in Ireland. It's very interesting than example of what we have here to Illustrated.It was like a jig was a nice guy and you probably won't notice as we go along in the program itself as we have titles for these various Jones type name means very little you might have Kiss Me Kate and things of that kind but one is named after the composer William Thompson on fact with an Android man, but that's a dance and you would have a solo dance our group dancing to a children of that particular kind but I think you will see the contrast immediately between the slower and the dance music itself General title of Irish traditional music singing must also falling apart and like all of the countries we have the various forms of expression and singing We have the love songs, which we have many very many inside now and we have the Patriotic type songs on we also have the immigration songs, but I'd like to give you a just one idea of an anglo-irish traditional ballad at dealing with love.This one in fact is called Mary on the banks of the Lee. the green tree coinmach refund married On the bus, don't stay tonight and the Moreland my marriage. When we parted on the ocean. On the bus, so true. Siri I love more than she ever E4. every rules and every slow on the face Are singing their incidentally was not a bunch of a small village called to move out and count it to Prairie and it happens that there is a very strong tradition of this type of singing in that particular area that a singer singing In traditional style is not Guided by any definite rules of music. Like you would have another forms of singing you're allowed free expression. So you're able to override any rules that you like yourself and in the case of nor the area she came from that even in spite of the television and Records in cinematic style Has Talent fight continued to the present day. But if you go back seat 20 or 30 years ago, you'd find many singers that this particular style at the old house dance isn't so I'm not totally unfamiliar with a history of the United States and they Southeast Asia. Did they leave the ballot the unaccompanied ballad was very popular. It seems to be a form that's in the museum now in our Museum anyway, and I guess I wasn't aware that in modern-day Ireland this form was as alive and thriving as it obviously is not a component form of Art and that you're having a company would ruin this Grace notes system of singing but I would say in the Irish language. You possibly find the greatest example of all of this and perhaps later in the program. I might have an opportunity of giving you an example of it. When I was speaking there earlier about the house dances. We do know that is caused many years can buy that every Sunday evenin put a can of the neighbors what you got her into local house and that we will see ourselves. We push back the table and the chairs we got room for the dancing and it meant in fact this with the main Forum events. Chandler people had parked pretty hard for the other six days of the week and look forward to Century to the Saturday meeting place for young couples. And so on the main form of entertainment at the time and the instrument that we would use very often because of the body as far as how the music supplied was the occurred in which I'm sure you've heard before and we have with us from Limerick, which is next door to Tipperary. I got to find a card impaired and body and is going to play for us a slide which is there pretty Lively type music that was used for the sentencing. I want to dance I didn't give the music with suggested type of dancing with have their fast-moving dancing inside to know but I did mention that about the coming back to the singing again. We have another Young singer with us here from dirty in fact, and that she sings about in the Irish language is better than go out. It's about it's also and a love song which I like very much call Jimmy movie the star on top. She might sing a verse or two of the song for us. High School. Jimmy movies Ben mobile hurts my heart. football reporters Jimmy movies You don't have to understand the language to you. You certainly get the feeling I'm comes to such but we still have areas in Ireland. That's right. Totally out of speaking parts of Cary parks of Donegal Cork and Waterford in areas of that kind but we have also government policy now that which is committed to the propagation of the Irish language and as matter of fact you learn that it's right through the school to tell him but at the same time, you know, it's not widely spoken in the areas which had mentioned it self. I was looking around at the other instruments in one drink crafts which one we might consider next but the one instrument that we would certainly regarded as the most revered of all Irish traditional music instruments at the end and pipes that at the present time we'd only have about as was 200 people playing these pipes you hit a joining of known fact in the background at the moment and Sean Siri the man we have with us at his father. Siri was in fact, I found a member of our organization and Sean were stopped by paying ASCO Air France. That was the Ellen pipes in Santee. The name Ellen is the Irish word for elbow and it might be hard to describe. The instrument itself is made of a very conversant instrument. But in fact in the hands of the right person that can be a very very efficient you have in a bag. First of all of which is under the elbow itself. You also have a Bellows and then you have the chanter and you have the drawings and it's a reed instrument as such and the air would be very still wanted. You can also play fast dance music on the instrument on some Irish music that we've come to call Irish folk music here in the United States how many of these instruments are used? Now let me say we have the engine pipes one fiddle accordion compressor concert flowers to take a picture dictionary music on almost any instrument instrument. We don't have with us in France or just you know, the guy that is a symbol of traditional music would be the harp. But unfortunately, they traditional playing is at a very low Lebanon at the present time, but the kind of music that I can only think of the Clancy Brothers and it might not be fair to just pick out one and let the rest off easy. But what what kind of instruments from from this traditional group are are used in the kind of music that those artists use instead of tin whistle Tommy makem in fact and was a very fine musician needless to say and as a ballad from SIA bulletproof doesn't fit into the context of Irish traditional music at all. Strange the enough That's not Jake and the Clancy Brothers one fact, I've done quite a lot to revive interest in traditional music because it's a step in that direction of her from being coming from my own County which is very important as well. But you had that invest and I suppose some of these but also play a banjo on that could possibly play dance music on the banjo as well, but we would regard the instruments that we have here today as they basic instruments for Irish traditional music and I think that the most important of these would undoubtedly because of its goal be the set of Vietnam Pipes & Sons I know one kind of music that we had talked about that. I heard you mention was the historical ballad that what I just a historical traditional palet are two types. In fact, you would have historically ballot switch by the very structure wouldn't be traditional because you in fact you couldn't sing it in traditional style was ever intended as such but the historical Balaton Ireland play the very very important part towards that Irish freedom for the simple reason this with the medium used for spreading the philosophy of freight back in days gone by when you weren't allowed even to speak about his freedom or speak. In fact mentioned the very word Island. They got over this by Christine Island by many different names lightforged in Dover this hatchling hold on and so on so they use these forms for wedding the philosophy of Irish freedom and a flight mode where they are distressed toward Independence. We have songs then about many of the Patriots and one of these Patriots in fact wasn't noticed a man at one of these 1798 leaders who was a presbyterian in the six County area was in fact executed for his part. So it's fitting that we should have someone from Alistair and we have from dairy and Brawley to sing for us Henry Joy McCracken. from the iPhone 5 Marshall Toronto I watched two men fighting each other remember? I-84 anime scale I accused my wife. So he fought for our hearts or what are some of the money. Are you strong from the Hood full movie? 100 quartz Road Twisted Sister Andrew High School we have more time. rejoice marvelous example really of us was talking about the historical ballad which helped perpetuate the desire for freedom in Ireland. It's very interesting that has the invasion killed off the language and tended to substitute another language that they are transferred into the foreign language. If you will into the English language is a spirit in this desire of freedom, and I think even more interesting Lee how it coincided with the French Revolution and the American Revolution were talking about the end of the eighteenth century when that great wave of Freedom spread right across the west and we need to remember that in America at that time. They sell called Freedom Fighters were regarded really with the horror that we speak today of Reds or used to so it is marvelous example and a good example. I think of the way a national Spirit went from one language into another end shaped. an opinion in that foreign language Thank you. Dr. McKiernan. I think dr. McKinnon has crystallized was there in fact, they there yet with sentiments can be expressed both in the native tongue which has its own nationalism and also in the English language as well. And then I feel that when we have someone like and Brawley and the Ulster and tone going with that particular song. It also helps because very often when I was writing it was intended to be song in a particular area and you'll find this specifically in the Irish language that if you have a song for instance that has been written for a Connemara environment and I have a song by a different dialect you very often doesn't give it the full treatment. I was just thinking there that you know how we've had instruments and as solo items. We also have a combination of instruments which can fit into the traditional mold. We have the ceili band, but I'm not talkin here in terms of a ceili band, which is more formal. Asajj. The ceili band was intended at 4. Dancing what a group of musicians together can still play with in the traditional mold. But before I pass them to pay for us, I would mention that we have one. I don't know if I can call it an instrument by I'm sure what is an instrument in its own. Right and it's the power on which is a goat-skin drum is the skin from a course and it might be one of the reasons why the goats are scarce and Island at the moment, but it says it's a one-sided drama and fighting can lend a certain excitement to the music and props if we had a selection of real that suggests to rails and the Raiders have the names of the fox Hunters real and the box of Ardmore Highway get an example of this Earthly sound from the goat skin drum all the power on in the background. Well, I think that's what is a an indication of the artist sound of the bar on itself. And I was just wondering if at this particular stage everything to be coming at the end of the program. I think if we could invite hear the alarm pipes and its own I don't know if Sean will be in a position to play a selection of dance music because I did mention earlier that I didn't pipes was, you know, specifically suitable for the playing of snow are is in the hands of a good exponent. It can also be used for dance music and because of already got for the hidden pipes. I'd be very anxious to see it lap 7 ending the program forest with selection of real the timer possible on living room light three and a goat skin drum. goat skin drum seems to be a part of all cultures folk music all cultures traditional music Just want to interrupt for just a moment to thank you Lori Somer to and doctor on McCarran and then the whole Irish group for coming in today.

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